Speculation: Hypothetical Matthews Contract vs Actual Matthews Contract
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hamzarocks
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This is a worse deal than nylanders. Why are you giving him this much money for 5 years. He hasnt proven to be a top 10 player in the league. Matthews didnt take a single penny off. The bonus "advantage was bullshit and didnt lower the cap at all. 5 years gives him every chance to leave to zona while being an overpaid player.
CantLoseWithMatthews
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pretty sure that hypothetical contract would've cost us Kapanen, so not that one
Menzinger
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The 5 year deal.
Allows the team more flexibility over the next 5 years (when they’ll really need it) and allows them to resign him to a third contract while he’s only 26 (an 8 year deal then would take him to 33 years of age)
Allows the team more flexibility over the next 5 years (when they’ll really need it) and allows them to resign him to a third contract while he’s only 26 (an 8 year deal then would take him to 33 years of age)
Mattavarner
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Dubas "OK guys we might have to take a discount in order to stay together"
Nylander "I want 8 M for 6 years"
Matthews "I want 14 for 8 years"
Nylander "I want 8 M for 6 years"
Matthews "I want 14 for 8 years"
It's official. We do not sign contracts based on actual ability in Toronto.
Demands McDavid money, produces NONE OF THE RESULTS to warrant such, yet he's still f***ing ENTITLED TO IT?!?!
WHAT THE f*** IS GOING ON HERE????
Demands McDavid money, produces NONE OF THE RESULTS to warrant such, yet he's still f***ing ENTITLED TO IT?!?!
WHAT THE f*** IS GOING ON HERE????
Albert Iafrate
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Bobby Mac was using an 85M cap on the weekend when he was discussing this, and I trust Bobby Mac more than anyone. So the hit would actually have been 14M on a 8 year deal. That's 2.4M difference, which is probably what you could sign Kapanen for. So the 5 year deal for me. Gives us a 4-5 year window to win the cup with this group.
Albert Iafrate
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What had McDavid done? Won one playoff series? I'd rather be Toronto than Edmonton, 7 days a week.
hamzarocks
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Where is the cap flexibility. This is not a legit argument. Overpaying a player 2 million or so on a 5 year term doesnt give you flexibility it helps to ensure your team suffers cap casualties. Dubas shouldnt be praised for this signing. How the hell did he not get it for even 6 years. Atleast then the b.s argument of tavares contract expiring would hold some value. 5 years for this money is a brutal contract. Will Matthews ever be a top 3 player in the league during his deal? His cap hit is the 2nd highest if I'm not mistaken. The leafs overpaid Matthew's. Dubas made a great trade for dubas but this contract is bad. He should have gotten a 6th year at min if he was over paying the player. Marner will get 10+ as well and dubas will need to blow up our supporting roster pieces.
When you adjust for the cap, 13.8 is more money than McDavid. GTFO
Hockey Crazy
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Why is there so much outrage on here? We just locked up our best player at a AAV that lets us stay one of the best teams in the NHL for 5 more seasons...
Sweet Leaf
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Neither. Where is the "We Blew it Again" option?
In no world should he get McDavid money ....
...and in no world should he get 11.5 without buying up any years of FA.
11 over 7 was a good deal for everyone. 12 over 8 would have worked. 11.6 over 5 is terrible. No wonder he wanted to close this sooner than later.
Menzinger
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2 million in cap flexiblity will go a long way, especially next season where things will be tight.
This is Stockholm Syndrome, plain and simple. I can't explain it any other way.
Hockey Crazy
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No I just have a bit of a calmer demeanor about this than you. I was disappointed that we didnt get more of a discount too and realize that we probably could have had this $ at an 8 year term in the summer, but thats gone now and I knew that months ago...
We got our best player locked up... as a fan, that is nice to see and I still think we can win a cup with this team.
hamzarocks
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I hope your right. If the leafs can make it work somehow then credits to them. Maybe I'm overreacting and Matthews stays a leaf past this contract. Dont think it's a good deal still but I guess their is nothing we can do but put trust in managment and Matthews. Hoepfully matthews can evolve as a player and reach a new level starting next year. Still hoping marner gets 8 years. Go full term on one of these guys. Marner please give a slight discount.
I think the problem is the supporting cast (nylander, kadri, etc) getting too much
The cap situation is a mess
The cap situation is a mess
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IceColdBear
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Option C: let him sit or sign an offersheet.
I would have offered him either 8 x 12 or 5 x 10 & said these are our offers - take whichever you prefer. Or, if you want to be booed relentlessly the rest of your career, sign a max contract offersheet somewhere else and we'll take the draft picks.
I would have offered him either 8 x 12 or 5 x 10 & said these are our offers - take whichever you prefer. Or, if you want to be booed relentlessly the rest of your career, sign a max contract offersheet somewhere else and we'll take the draft picks.
