Prospect Info: Hurricanes Prospect Info and Discussion - Part VII - Cliff Pu and other shit

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Maybe we can petition the NHL to let the Canes just move the goals a little to the right.

 

[Lempo]

I wouldn't trade for Nylander along with Duchene. There is as much question as to if he can play center as there is for both Aho and Necas. He is also too expensive in my mind (both in acquisition costs and likely salary needed to sign him) and if he can't perform well enough at center, becomes another right winger...something we are busting at the gills with right now. I think if we want to trade for a center, Duchene should be the target. He likely is the most available and probably has the lowest cost in acquisition costs. Additionally, we know he can play the position to a level that there is no question about his long term future at the position. Can we resign him to a reasonable cost for us...that would be the only question I would have right now.

Funny to compare to Aho in the speculative case you needed to sign them both.

Aho 53 G, 114P, Nylander 42G, 122P after two seasons.

If Nylander was traded, is there a tier effect to it? "Where there is only one set of blade marks visible, Matthews was carrying him"?

 

[Discipline Daddy]

If I'm Don Waddell, first thing I do is I take off my cardigan because it's ****ing September.

I would then call Dubas, who my phone auto corrected to divas, today. I would like to believe we have been offering Pesce for Nylander for some time, but TML divas said no, we can sign him, piss off. At this point I would smile and offer Faulk or TVR + 2nd for Nylander. The old car salesman trick. Then maybe Kyle divas would say golly gee whittaker ixnay on that but can we do Pesce Peace for Nylander? Boom. I say you have our tuberculosis infested d man who will be lucky to play again and hang up the phone.

 

[neelynugs]

haven't seen much of nedeljkovic in the pro game, but how's he looked and what's
the upside for him that you guys can see?

 

[Ole Gil]

haven't seen much of nedeljkovic in the pro game, but how's he looked and what's
the upside for him that you guys can see?

Defense has been so dominant, nobody has been taxed in net. Ned looked fine thus far, but as easy as it gets for goalie.

 

[bluedevil58]

Defense has been so dominant, nobody has been taxed in net. Ned looked fine thus far, but as easy as it gets for goalie.

That's not true. The harder games for goalies are when you are not facing 25 - 40 shots a night.

 

[Lempo]

If I'm Don Waddell, first thing I do is I take off my cardigan because it's ****ing September.

I would then call Dubas, who my phone auto corrected to divas, today. I would like to believe we have been offering Pesce for Nylander for some time, but TML divas said no, we can sign him, piss off. At this point I would smile and offer Faulk or TVR + 2nd for Nylander. The old car salesman trick. Then maybe Kyle divas would say golly gee whittaker ixnay on that but can we do Pesce Peace for Nylander? Boom. I say you have our tuberculosis infested d man who will be lucky to play again and hang up the phone.

CAR salesman is so correct in so many ways.

 

[Ole Gil]

That's not true. The harder games for goalies are when you are not facing 25 - 40 shots a night.

I'm saying the quality of chances has been really low. 30 easy saves vs 15 easy saves is still a bunch of easy saves.

 

[emptyNedder]

Haven't seen anyone mention it--Mattheos scored a power play goal, went 16-23 on face-offs, and was first star in his first CHL regular season game. He should dominate juniors. Don't forget to mention him when discussing centers/RWs for the next 1-2 years.

 

[emptyNedder]

Haven't seen anyone mention it--Mattheos scored a power play goal, went 16-23 on face-offs, and was first star in his first CHL regular season game. He should dominate juniors. Don't forget to mention him when discussing centers/RWs for the next 1-2 years.

Mattheos added a goal and an assist in second game. He was 16/26 on face-offs. I really like this kid.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Mattheos added a goal and an assist in second game. He was 16/26 on face-offs. I really like this kid.

So he’s regressing. Not a good sign.

 

[TheBigKahuna]

haven't seen much of nedeljkovic in the pro game, but how's he looked and what's
the upside for him that you guys can see?

He's not a puck handler, and each time he leaves blue ice, your pulse races. He's got some work to do to be NHL ready, IMO. He's only allowed 1 goal in each period hes played. Which compared to Darling 17-18, isn't bad. But he's not NHL ready.

 

[Zezima]

CAR salesman is so correct in so many ways.

 

[Joe McGrath]

He's not a puck handler, and each time he leaves blue ice, your pulse races. He's got some work to do to be NHL ready, IMO. He's only allowed 1 goal in each period hes played. Which compared to Darling 17-18, isn't bad. But he's not NHL ready.

The goalie who has scored goals in consecutive years isn’t a puck handler?

 

[My Special Purpose]

The goalie who has scored goals in consecutive years isn’t a puck handler?

Yeah, I think that "analysis" was based on one misplayed puck in his only preseason appearance so far this fall. On bad ice.

To me, it's almost shocking how small Ned is. Maybe it's just because Darling is a giant, but Ned looks like an 80's goalie in that even his equipment doesn't make him look big. He doesn't *look* like a solution, but he keeps stoping pucks every time he plays for the big club, and his puck-handling is fine. I'm still not sure what we really have here. I agree the AHL is the best place for him, but I'd like to see him get a few shots at the NHL level this season.

 

[Vagrant]

Yeah, I think that "analysis" was based on one misplayed puck in his only preseason appearance so far this fall. On bad ice.

To me, it's almost shocking how small Ned is. Maybe it's just because Darling is a giant, but Ned looks like an 80's goalie in that even his equipment doesn't make him look big. He doesn't *look* like a solution, but he keeps stoping pucks every time he plays for the big club, and his puck-handling is fine. I'm still not sure what we really have here. I agree the AHL is the best place for him, but I'd like to see him get a few shots at the NHL level this season.

i mentioned this a while back, but it seems like there are two polar changes occurring in the league. goalies are getting taller, and skaters are getting shorter. goalies just under '6 are about as rare now as skaters under 5'9" were fifteen years ago. there's still a place for small reflex goalies if they have sound technical skills, but it's an uphill climb. the entire goaltending situation is predicated on discerning which option between mrazek and darling we're going with long term. ned will get another year in the ahl to attempt to put together something resembling level mastery before he's in the mix. .881 to .903 is a good start, but nhl quality goaltenders in the minors are usually in that .915-.920 area code.

 

[StiffSquid]

Mr Eddie Monastery got the gwg and an assist in a hockey game which was played in Kuopio tonight. Heroic Mr Monastery will save this franchise.

 

[The Stranger]

Mr Eddie Monastery got the gwg and an assist in a hockey game which was played in Kuopio tonight. Heroic Mr Monastery will save this franchise.

He ended last season on the top line with some nice production...looks like he's getting top line minutes again to start the year which is a good sign for his development.

 

[geehaad]

Who is Eddie Munster?

 

[StiffSquid]

So that puts Luostarinen at 2g 2a after eight games. 18 penalty minutes. I have really no clue how he's being playing I just see the stat line

 

[StiffSquid]

Who is Eddie Munster?

The monk of Kuopio. Luostarinen

 

[Unsustainable]

Eddie Money, he’s got 2 tickets

 

[HisIceness]

Take me home tonight

 

[StiffSquid]

The monk must be under the influence of the Holy Spirit.

Another night , another goal. A short-handed goal this time , and plenty of game left

 

[StiffSquid]

Another goal for the holy man. Another GWG actually. So 4g 2a in 9 games now , 2 gwg's