Fact is, the owners didn't have the gumption to follow through with what they started in '94. There were around 6 new arenas opening then, and the proprieters thereof engineered the league backing away from what they really wanted. The owners in this camp were led by Ed Snider and Abe Pollin. This was on the Sports Talk Radio in New York City and reported as it happened.#66 said:I wish that Bret Hull would shut up sometimes so that he would have a little more validity when he has something smart to say. (like this article) How Bettman keeps his job I'll never know? IMO he settled for to little back in 94/95. Now that being said why would a person agree to such a long term deal, thats so overly player friendly, when you know that the state of the game will just get worse. Now he just doesn't have to worry about costs escalating but he needs for them to roll back.
#66 said:IMO he settled for to little back in 94/95. Now that being said why would a person agree to such a long term deal, thats so overly player friendly, when you know that the state of the game will just get worse.
MacDaddy Version 1.3 said:In one word: Money. The owners didn't want to jeopardize losing all the expansion money that was coming their way. That was the reason it was extended once or twice.
MacDaddy Version 1.3 said:As always, Brett Hull hits the nail on the head. Both sides are to blame, the players being the most unreasonable and the blame for the state of the game falls squarely on Gary Bettman's shoulders. If he only through a few jabs Goodenow's way his comments would have been perfect.
MacDaddy Version 1.3 said:As always, Brett Hull hits the nail on the head. Both sides are to blame, the players being the most unreasonable and the blame for the state of the game falls squarely on Gary Bettman's shoulders. If he only through a few jabs Goodenow's way his comments would have been perfect.
Melanson said:Brett, if you care so much get off your butt and do something!
me2 said:Is it entirely Bettman's fault that the quality of hockey has died off over his stay? Bettman is guilty of expanding too quickly. However
Bettman doesn't make the rules.
Bettman doesn't tell coaches to play the trap.
Bettman doesn't force players to hook, grab, hold and interfere. The players do that themselves. Maybe if the players aren't happy with the quality of the game they could stop committing the interference. There is a bold thought.
puck you said:I agree with that partly, but the systems the coaches employ force the players to do those things. In today's NHL, with coaches whom aren't afraid to bench their players, if players don't follow the systems, and play well defensively, they won't get ice time.
I think Bettman is to blame for the trap, and the defensive systems, expansion has watered down the talent pool in this league incredibly. It's a joke when some teams can barely ice a quality second scoring line.
rwilson99 said:My proposal:
Give the owners a salary cap.
Name Brett Hull Commisioner.
Let's play hockey!
me2 said:Bettman doesn't force players to hook, grab, hold and interfere. The players do that themselves. Maybe if the players aren't happy with the quality of the game they could stop committing the interference. There is a bold thought.
me2 said:Fair amount of truth in that, but its not entirely true. 24 to 30 teams in about 10 years. But the increase European player numbers is quite enough to nullify most of that 6 team expansion.
And as for the trap, its a plague but unfortunately it isn't a weak team plague. I think its a strong team plague. The number of weak/expansion teams that trap is around the numbers of the elite, talented teams that trap. NJ was trappnig long before the last 4 expansion teams came into being, so its not dillution at that point. If dillution isn't driving the trap forward then its likely to be the success of the trap that is driving its adoption. If you can't beat them, join them. And plenty of teams have joined.
rwilson99 said:My proposal:
Give the owners a salary cap.
Name Brett Hull Commisioner.
Let's play hockey!
Melanson said:I think you are missing the point. The trap isn't the problem in the NHL...it's the clutching a grabbing. You can put in all the traps you want and teams will beat it as long as you aren't allowed to grab and hook players with the puck and impede players who don't have the puck. The only way to stop this is for Bettman to force the officials to call the rules as they are written. He tries to do it every year and then by the midway point the refs go back to "letting them play". This turns a great spectator sport into nothing more than a wrestling match. The best players aren't allowed to showcase the skills that fans want to see. Hull was right last season when he said he wouldn't pay to watch the game the way it is being played today. THAT is why nobody cares that the NHL is having a lockout in the U.S....today's style of play doesn't implore you to miss it when it's gone. I lay that blame in the lap of Bettman.