How would Peter Forsberg perform in today’s game at his peak?

[My3Sons]

Foresberg in his prime was unbelievable!!! He was like a mini Jagr hard to knock off the puck, could thread the needle and also had a very underrated shot!!!

He wasn’t so mini

 

[PatrikBerglund]

I believe he's 5th in apg oat.

 

[Zalos]

Lol at comparing him to Crosby and McDavid.

He would be among the best, but not at the top.

 

[KarmaPolice]

He'd be a game-changer in any era, including today. The guy was a beast physically and had amazing vision. Would probably be the most legit threat to McDavid for the Art Ross.

 

[Frosty415]

Lol at comparing him to Crosby and McDavid.

He would be among the best, but not at the top.

Spoken like someone who has never seen him play

 

[Russian_fanatic]

He'd be a game-changer in any era, including today. The guy was a beast physically and had amazing vision. Would probably be the most legit threat to McDavid for the Art Ross.

Just wondering... you do know Peter Forsberg has the 8th highest PPG all time right at 1.25? Which is good for 103 points per year, in he DEAD PUCK ERA.

Then we can take into consideration, how he was a beast physically, a clutch playoff performer, had selke caliber defense, and won year in and year out. Peter Forsberg was the perfect center. 2003 Forsberg was one of the best players in NHL history. IMO he had a top 10 peak of all time.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Just wondering... you do know Peter Forsberg has the 8th highest PPG all time right at 1.25? Which is good for 103 points per year, in he DEAD PUCK ERA.

Then we can take into consideration, how he was a beast physically, a clutch playoff performer, had selke caliber defense, and won year in and year out. Peter Forsberg was the perfect center. 2003 Forsberg was one of the best players in NHL history. IMO he had a top 10 peak of all time.

Yep, I knew that. He would be an amazing player today, probably only 2nd to McDavid.

 

[Nick Hansen]

That's not to mention he actually was a very fast skater with even better agility.

Don't know about very fast, maybe when he was younger, but his skating was never a problem and would never be in any era, including this one. Someone mentioned Giroux - if he can score +100 pts in today's NHL lemme tell ya...Forsberg also does without a doubt.

 

[Regal]

Forsberg doesn't compare in their careers, but he was at least as good as current Crosby on average through his prime. He'd be a top 5 player today just like he was in his prime

 

[Sugi21]

Yep, I knew that. He would be an amazing player today, probably only 2nd to McDavid.

Not quite sold on that!!! Foresberg put up some big numbers while hardly playing full seasons and that was in the dead puck era!!! Foresberg playing now would give McDavid or Crosby a serious run for their money!!!!

 

[bobbyking]

If by that you mean that Malkin is richer than Forsberg, then perhaps you're right.

Malkin is better then foppa ever was . That overrated fool.

 

[Syckle78]

Poor mans version of Crosby that's injured (either not playing, or playing through an injury) >50% of the time

So basically Crosby.

 

[authentic]

I'm not sure where people get the idea that Forsberg was a poor mans Crosby. In his prime and at his peak he was essentially an equal caliber of player in the regular season and playoffs. Whatever slight edge Crosby had offensively Forsberg probably made up for that with his defense and physical play. What it comes down to is Crosby has had a few more elite full seasons than Forsberg did thus having the clearly better career already, with perhaps quite a few more to come along with more Stanley Cups (the two Conn Smythes don't hurt either, but don't let that fool you into thinking he was better in the playoffs, he was equal at best). Per game though, take their best season, best 3-5 seasons, or best half season and I would think it's a very close call (Forsberg had 77 points in the last 47 games in 2002-03 followed by 55 in 39 the following season where the top two scorers had 94 and 87 points in full seasons).

 

[Spectra]

How good is Backstrom? A top 10 center? Forsberg is like that, but slightly better (at least) at every aspect of ice hockey. So yes, Forsberg would dominate the league.

 

[authentic]

Yep, I knew that. He would be an amazing player today, probably only 2nd to McDavid.

Honestly, even that is debatable. I'd like to see one good playoff run out of him before we declare him clearly better than Forsberg who was a consistent playoff monster throughout his career.

 

[psycat]

If injury free around 100 pts a season- probably a Ross or two(likely the latter since the competition today ain't no Jagr etc).
On a per game basis he is right up there with Crosby, McDavid etc- he obviously didn't have the career of the former though.

 

[bobbyking]

I'm not sure where people get the idea that Forsberg was a poor mans Crosby. In his prime and at his peak he was essentially an equal caliber of player in the regular season and playoffs. Whatever slight edge Crosby had offensively Forsberg probably made up for that with his defense and physical play. What it comes down to is Crosby has had a few more elite full seasons than Forsberg did thus having the clearly better career already, with perhaps quite a few more to come along with more Stanley Cups (the two Conn Smythes don't hurt either, but don't let that fool you into thinking he was better in the playoffs, he was equal at best). Per game though, take their best season, best 3-5 seasons, or best half season and I would think it's a very close call (Forsberg had 77 points in the last 47 games in 2002-03 followed by 55 in 39 the following season where the top two scorers had 94 and 87 points in full seasons).

Crosby has a better career and he was injured and sidelined in his most dominant form. Forsberg is a clear step below crosby

 

[3074326]

So basically Crosby.

Crosby has been pretty healthy for 5 years now. The least amount of games he's played in the regular season in that span was 75. When you consider the playoff runs they've had, Sid's health no longer seems to be much of a concern.

I don't believe in jinxes and sure hope this post doesn't make me start.

 

[TheAngryHank]

[mod] Crosby is a far better player... not a debate

Why , he scores more points in the non two line pass era? Inform Crosby the ice is 200 feet long.

 

[psycat]

Crosby has a better career and he was injured and sidelined in his most dominant form. Forsberg is a clear step below crosby

On a career basis, yes that's a given(And I don't believe anybody suggested otherwise). However on a per game basis they are actually very close.

 

[22FUTON9]

The ‘Forsberg is overrated’ argument is probably the best indication to see whether or not he/she actually watched hockey before 05/06
I feel like him and Pronger always get the overrated treatment because people actually have to watch them play to understand how good they are and how they were perceived around the league. My parents have a bunch of magazines from around the late 90s and early 00s but Forsberg was constantly among the top 5 players in those year books, number one on a couple years iirc. Not saying it’s completely accurate but it’s a pretty good indication of how he was viewed at the time.
Imo it’s pretty comical when people say he’d top out as a 80-90 point player without any argument or facts.

I’m not arguing their legacies or careers or anything. The other 3 (mcdavid will likely surpass as well) are clearly above Forsberg in that matter. But when people just say stuff like he’s not even close to crosby/malkin, a step below the elite group of players, imo they’re just being really stubborn when all the stats (and the eyetest for that matter) points to him being equally productive when on the ice as those guys.

And yes take those guy’s 9 best years and forsberg still has a better ppg than ao and geno and is almost identical to crosbys if you want to use the ‘his ppg is inflated because he didn’t play out his career, he’s actually not that good’ card.

 

[Future GOAT]

He'd be at Crosby level. Challenging for 2nd place every season and sometimes threatening for 1st.

 

[cassius]

I'm not sure where people get the idea that Forsberg was a poor mans Crosby. In his prime and at his peak he was essentially an equal caliber of player in the regular season and playoffs. Whatever slight edge Crosby had offensively Forsberg probably made up for that with his defense and physical play. What it comes down to is Crosby has had a few more elite full seasons than Forsberg did thus having the clearly better career already, with perhaps quite a few more to come along with more Stanley Cups (the two Conn Smythes don't hurt either, but don't let that fool you into thinking he was better in the playoffs, he was equal at best). Per game though, take their best season, best 3-5 seasons, or best half season and I would think it's a very close call (Forsberg had 77 points in the last 47 games in 2002-03 followed by 55 in 39 the following season where the top two scorers had 94 and 87 points in full seasons).

Dude.. not even close. Crosby destroys Forsberg and that doesn't take into consideration that Sid still has 5+ years of hockey left to make that already MASSIVE gap even larger.

Crosby 100 point seasons: 5 vs. 2 for Forsberg
Crosby 30+ goal seasons: 8 vs. 2 for Forsberg
Crosby Art Ross trophies 2 vs. 1 for Forsberg
Crosby Hart Trophies 2 vs 1 for Forsberg
Crosby Rocket Richard Trophies 2 vs. 0 for Forsberg
Crosby Conn Smythe MVP 2 v. 0 for Forsberg

Not even close... it's hilarious reading some of these posts that are completely disconnected from reality. You guys crack me up.

There is no logical argument (blatant fanboyism != logic ) that even puts Forsberg in the same stratosphere of what Crosby has accomplished.

Forsberg was a great player - maybe 50th best to ever play the game.

Crosby? Top 10, easily.

That is a big difference there. I hope you guys can somehow step back from the blatant fan boyism and see the logic backed up by numbers.. and hopefully reality sets in. Forsberg was a good player, sure, but let's ground ourselves here and not get carried away. Alright?

 

[22FUTON9]

Dude.. not even close. Crosby destroys Forsberg and that doesn't take into consideration that Sid still has 5+ years of hockey left to make that already MASSIVE gap even larger.

Crosby 100 point seasons: 5 vs. 2 for Forsberg
Crosby 30+ goal seasons: 8 vs. 2 for Forsberg
Crosby Art Ross trophies 2 vs. 1 for Forsberg
Crosby Hart Trophies 2 vs 1 for Forsberg
Crosby Rocket Richard Trophies 2 vs. 0 for Forsberg
Crosby Conn Smythe MVP 2 v. 0 for Forsberg

Not even close... it's hilarious reading some of these posts that are completely disconnected from reality. You guys crack me up.

There is no logical argument (blatant fanboyism != logic ) that even puts Forsberg in the same stratosphere of what Crosby has accomplished.

Forsberg was a great player - maybe 50th best to ever play the game.

Crosby? Top 10, easily.

That is a big difference there. I hope you guys can somehow step back from the blatant fan boyism and see the logic backed up by numbers.. and hopefully reality sets in. Forsberg was a good player, sure, but let's ground ourselves here and not get carried away. Alright?

Come on, you know the only reason Forsberg doesn’t have more hardware/100 pt seasons is because of injuries and Jagr. He’d have 8 100 pt seasons if not for injuries, not including 01-02 and 07-08. Of course that’s really unlikely even for a durable player but you get my point. Noone’s saying he’s straight out better than Sid. Crosbys career is definitely top 10 and I agree that forsbergs ranking is much lower but that’s not what the thread is asking. I mean pens fans have to deal with the injury/quality of competition argument all the time when it comes to McDavids potential accomplishments vs Crosby’s accomplishments, I don’t know why you’re so keen on using the same argument.

 

[authentic]

Lol at comparing him to Crosby and McDavid.

He would be among the best, but not at the top.

I think you may be mistaking him for Filip Forsberg or something.