Tribute How Pavel Bure became a Canuck, on Hey Burkie

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[J Corso]

This is great. I love Burkie's behind the scenes stuff. Need more of it.

 

[Hollywood Burrows]

this book is good: https://www.amazon.ca/Pavel-Bure-KERRY-BANKS/dp/1550547143/

 

[Bubbles]

This is great. I love Burkie's behind the scenes stuff. Need more of it.

The Hey Burkie series is awesome, the animation is perfect for it.

 

[kaiser matias]

This is great. I love Burkie's behind the scenes stuff. Need more of it.

His book does a lot of that, and was a neat read.

However it needed some serious fact-checking. Without trying to scour it, I found several glaring errors:

* He makes an off-hand remark about the Canucks 1984 trip to the Cup final. This of course would be news to Gretzky and the rest of the Oilers (it was of course 1982 the Canucks went that far).

* A reference to the Summer Olympics in Barcelona, which apparently happened in 1998, and not 1992 like we had been led to believe.

* In the summer of 2011 Burke made an offer to Ed Jovanovski, but claims he instead signed for a longer term with the Phoenix Coyotes. Jovo had just finished a 5-year contract there, and actually went to Florida, where he played his final 3 seasons.

Some might argue that these are minor things that shouldn't matter, but if you are getting basic facts wrong that anyone could literally corroborate with a Google search, it makes me question the integrity of the rest of the book, and the things that aren't so easily fact-checked. It comes across as lazy work, and as it would have passed through several people before being published, makes me wonder how much effort they actually put into this.

 

[Breakers]

Burkie had great stores about the draft.

He was talking about the 1990 draft where they took Peter Nedved
he brought out the actual prospect rankings that they had on paper to prove they had Jagr at 1 and why they passed on him.

and he said everybody had Jagr at 1, but they couldn't get over the 3 years that he was going to be in the army
Pitts could take the chance because they had lemieux
Jagr never had to do the time in the armed forces and the rest is history

The st louis signed Nedved to an offer sheet, and vancouver didnt match because they were 100% certain the arbitrator was going to side with vancouver and give them shanahan, and they got craig frigan Janney who was injured at the time, so they were like this is in the bag for Shanhan becoming a canuck

 

[JiffyPB]

This series is a gem.

 

[archangel2]

I could have sworn Igor Larionov was the one who found the game played sheets?

 

[Bubbles]

I could have sworn Igor Larionov was the one who found the game played sheets?

The man who discovered Pavel Bure celebrates 50 years in the game

 

[MS]

The man who discovered Pavel Bure celebrates 50 years in the game

Penney was a terrific scout who had the misfortune of having several of his preferred top picks be overruled by Pat Quinn and Quinn's desire for monster projects. Our record from the 2nd round on through his departure in 1998 was outstanding.

1991 we had a Forsberg jersey ready to go and Philly took him 1 pick ahead of us, and Quinn took Stojanov instead.

1990 Penney wanted Keith Tkachuk but Quinn overruled him to take Shawn Antoski.

 

[Bubbles]

Penney was a terrific scout who had the misfortune of having several of his preferred top picks be overruled by Pat Quinn and Quinn's desire for monster projects. Our record from the 2nd round on through his departure in 1998 was outstanding.

1991 we had a Forsberg jersey ready to go and Philly took him 1 pick ahead of us, and Quinn took Stojanov instead.

1990 Penney wanted Keith Tkachuk but Quinn overruled him to take Shawn Antoski.

At least we got Naslund out of the Stojanov pick!

 

[archangel2]

The man who discovered Pavel Bure celebrates 50 years in the game

so according to THAT article NO ONE ELSE in the hockey world knew of Bure? 18 teams protested when the Canucks drafted him. Igor was the one who found the game sheets

 

[Bubbles]

so according to THAT article NO ONE ELSE in the hockey world knew of Bure? 18 teams protested when the Canucks drafted him. Igor was the one who found the game sheets

You clearly didn't read the article, did you? It says most teams knew about Bure but didn't want to pick him in the first 3 rounds.

No one has ever said Larionov found the sheets.

 

[Vector]

so according to THAT article NO ONE ELSE in the hockey world knew of Bure? 18 teams protested when the Canucks drafted him. Igor was the one who found the game sheets

Huh?

"By the time Bure’s draft year came around, he was well known by scouts. After all, he was playing in the top Soviet League and had torn apart the 1989 World Junior Championship in Alaska with linemates Sergei Fedorov and Alexander Mogilny."

"That season, Penny had been in Finland over Christmas and was told by European scout Goran Stubb that the Soviet national team was playing against Finland in Vierumaki on Christmas Day and Bure would be playing. Penny borrowed Stubb’s car and drove to the game and was the only scout there. For some reason, that game was not included in the total, but Penny knew it should be because it was recorded on an IIHF scoresheet. And that game gave Bure the 11 games he needed to be eligible."

Very clearly states that Bure was incredibly well know and is implied that either Penny had the game sheet himself or knew who to contact to get a copy of the sheet.

 

[sandwichbird2023]

Penney was a terrific scout who had the misfortune of having several of his preferred top picks be overruled by Pat Quinn and Quinn's desire for monster projects. Our record from the 2nd round on through his departure in 1998 was outstanding.

1991 we had a Forsberg jersey ready to go and Philly took him 1 pick ahead of us, and Quinn took Stojanov instead.

1990 Penney wanted Keith Tkachuk but Quinn overruled him to take Shawn Antoski.

I don't understand why Quinn would overrule his head scout on Tkachuk for Antoski, when both are the same 'type' of prospect. Quinn clearly prefer a power forward, and they both fits the category. Seems kind of odd to me.