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Posted a similar thread but locked due to its seemingly rant-like nature, (that's why they call Buffalonians passionate sports fans [Pulling A Duane])
but I wanted to create an all-encompassing Eichel trade thread because it's all I see in the main forums basically and thought it would help to create an independent thread so that the rest of the threads aren't littered by Eichel trade talk.
The thread is designed to discuss the pros of cons of trading, your take on a potential trade, good idea/bad idea, Eichel's value/talent, speculating places he might get traded etc etc.
Because Eichel is the best player and captain, and the rampant trade rumors, I thought that it was thread-worthy. If not feel free to lock her up again.
But I believe people forgot just how superhuman of a season Eichel had in 2020. 50 goal, 95 point pace most of the time, only subsiding at the very very end. The question is, is that his peak? I say that'd be ridiculous. Eichel still has a lot of game left to be grown and is only 24 AKA not even entering a typical human's physical offensive prime. (Until age 25-28.)
A question is: Does the surgery he had impair his ability to play at his top level? I doubt it but I am not a doctor, insight posted in this thread as pertains to that topic would also be appreciated.
IMO: You don't sell low on players EVER. Near when I first made this HF account (A new era in my life) I was begging for people to not sell low on ROR and that he'd be PPG on a good team. ROR wasn't yet in his prime at the time, just before. We know how that ended up. Crazy to think Eichel would hit 100 pts.? Absolutely not. 24 is still very young. I want Eichel to be on this team in his prime 25-28.
Trading Eichel now before his prime considered, including his perceived value from his surgery, is the worst strategy possible. Lowest time possible to trade him. I believe there will be a stretch as Eichel matures when he will be a top 3 center in the entire league for a few yrs. (Pulling A MacKinnon) or the very least top 5.
I'm a big believer that you want the best center possible to win a cup and build around that. I don't want a average 1c for a great 1c just for depth. I want a cup. Greater centers do greater things.
For that reason, I'm really not wanting to give Eichel up for anything short of McDavid (Call me a homer, but I would have an equal opinion if Jack wasn't a Sabre based on the glimpses of true greatness I see).
Eichel more dynamic than Matthews in his peak imo and has more term.
Of course the potential benefits of trading him are:
-More depth
-More picks
-Different players
-Dumping 10 mil salary
-Dump a contract
& -Overall try to be a better team.
The risk is that Eichel will O'Rielly you and win a cup while the return ends up being underwhelming, AKA another disaster.
I think this team needs a retool, we have some good young players, a rebuild would be tragically unnecessary IMO. So trading Eichel would set us back. I don't want that.
What say you my fellow Sabres fans? How open are you to trading him? I say, players like Eichel, you build around, personally.
Let's keep things civil and respect everyone's opinions as always of course !
***Note: Just added the poll question about an hr. later, "Take a risk if it might help improve team". Due to this- the answer to this poll question may not be 100% representative of opinion.***
but I wanted to create an all-encompassing Eichel trade thread because it's all I see in the main forums basically and thought it would help to create an independent thread so that the rest of the threads aren't littered by Eichel trade talk.
The thread is designed to discuss the pros of cons of trading, your take on a potential trade, good idea/bad idea, Eichel's value/talent, speculating places he might get traded etc etc.
Because Eichel is the best player and captain, and the rampant trade rumors, I thought that it was thread-worthy. If not feel free to lock her up again.
But I believe people forgot just how superhuman of a season Eichel had in 2020. 50 goal, 95 point pace most of the time, only subsiding at the very very end. The question is, is that his peak? I say that'd be ridiculous. Eichel still has a lot of game left to be grown and is only 24 AKA not even entering a typical human's physical offensive prime. (Until age 25-28.)
A question is: Does the surgery he had impair his ability to play at his top level? I doubt it but I am not a doctor, insight posted in this thread as pertains to that topic would also be appreciated.
IMO: You don't sell low on players EVER. Near when I first made this HF account (A new era in my life) I was begging for people to not sell low on ROR and that he'd be PPG on a good team. ROR wasn't yet in his prime at the time, just before. We know how that ended up. Crazy to think Eichel would hit 100 pts.? Absolutely not. 24 is still very young. I want Eichel to be on this team in his prime 25-28.
Trading Eichel now before his prime considered, including his perceived value from his surgery, is the worst strategy possible. Lowest time possible to trade him. I believe there will be a stretch as Eichel matures when he will be a top 3 center in the entire league for a few yrs. (Pulling A MacKinnon) or the very least top 5.
I'm a big believer that you want the best center possible to win a cup and build around that. I don't want a average 1c for a great 1c just for depth. I want a cup. Greater centers do greater things.
For that reason, I'm really not wanting to give Eichel up for anything short of McDavid (Call me a homer, but I would have an equal opinion if Jack wasn't a Sabre based on the glimpses of true greatness I see).
Eichel more dynamic than Matthews in his peak imo and has more term.
Of course the potential benefits of trading him are:
-More depth
-More picks
-Different players
-Dumping 10 mil salary
-Dump a contract
& -Overall try to be a better team.
The risk is that Eichel will O'Rielly you and win a cup while the return ends up being underwhelming, AKA another disaster.
I think this team needs a retool, we have some good young players, a rebuild would be tragically unnecessary IMO. So trading Eichel would set us back. I don't want that.
What say you my fellow Sabres fans? How open are you to trading him? I say, players like Eichel, you build around, personally.
Let's keep things civil and respect everyone's opinions as always of course !
***Note: Just added the poll question about an hr. later, "Take a risk if it might help improve team". Due to this- the answer to this poll question may not be 100% representative of opinion.***
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