How many Norris trophies should Karlsson have?

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  1. GreatGonzo

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    Was EKs defense or defensive numbers so much better that he clearly deserved the award like many are suggesting? No. Even offensively, he was stellar. He was simply more consistent the entire year where as EK started picking it up towards the end. Burns being “better” doesn’t mean he was worlds away greater in his own end, just that he was better, even slightly.

    I’m not saying Burns is a better defenseman than EK, but that year he was. EK doesn’t deserve every Norris just because he can pile on a bunch of points while playing decent defensively for the most part.
     
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    It's more like he because he barely scored 50 points (51) and the other candidate scored scored 82.

    That's not a small gap.
     
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    Too bad for Karlsson hockey is played on 200ft and not 75ft


    2015-16

    Karlsson:

    98 ES GA
    52.1 CF
    50.9 FF
    1:20 SH TOI (7th on Ottawa)

    Doughty

    51 ES GA
    58.1 CF
    57.8 FF
    2:56 SH TOI (2nd on LA)
     
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    CF/FF stats in a vacuum are damn near worthless. You're comparing individual players, using metrics that involve 5 players + coaching.

    Rel stats are a lot more telling as it describes the impact an individual player can have on his team.
     
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    Because points are all that matter.
     
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    What I meant is I don't even think Burns was better at all defensively from a full season speaking than EK ever in their entire careers.
     
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    He shouldn't win one until he figures defense out.
     
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    I didn't remotely say that that was the case, just that your comment said in jest that Doughty shouldn't win because he "didn't score 70 points" is a pretty absurd misrepresentation. He didn't score 52 is what you meant to say.
     
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    I think that year was an exception. Overall on s consistent basis? Yes your probably right, but I don’t believe EK is that superior defensively. Better? Sure, but it’s not all that significant.
     
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    My point was, the Norris these days seems to go to the d-man with the most points. Which is complete BS.
     
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    Doughty whined his way to a Norris

    Hands down that was Karlssons Norris
     
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    One at the most.
     

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