How many goals will the Leafs score this season.

Joey Hoser

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Thats what the young kids think nowadays because someone said it once. But they don't know what the hell they are talking about.
1. 43 Wins (61 Starts): Tom Barrasso (1992-93, Pittsburgh Penguins)
2. 43 Wins (70 Starts): Ed Belfour (1990-91, Chicago Blackhawks).
3. 41 Wins: Ed Belfour (1992-93, Chicago Blackhawks)
4. 40 Wins (61 Starts): Pete Peeters (1982-83, Boston Bruins)
5. 40 Wins (63 Starts): Pelle Lindbergh (1984-85, Philadelphia Flyers)

1. 293 Wins: Mike Liut (St. Louis Blues, Hartford Whalers, Washington Capitals)
2. 279 Wins: Andy Moog (Edmonton Oilers, Boston Bruins)
3. 275 Wins: Grant Fuhr (Edmonton Oilers, Toronto Maple Leafs, Buffalo Sabres)
4. 246 Wins: Pete Peeters (Philadelphia Flyers, Boston Bruins, Washington Capitals)
5. 244 Wins: Tom Barrasso (Buffalo Sabres, Pittsburgh Penguins)

Most NHL Shutouts in the 1980s

1. 25 Shutouts: Mike Liut (St. Louis Blues, Hartford Whalers, Washington Capitals)
2. 21 Shutouts: Pete Peeters (Philadelphia Flyers, Boston Bruins, Washington Capitals)
3. 20 Shutouts: Patrick Roy (Montréal Canadiens)
4. 19 Shutouts: Tom Barrasso (Buffalo Sabres, Pittsburgh Penguins)
5. 17 Shutouts (459 Starts): Andy Moog (Edmonton Oilers, Boston Bruins)
Honourable Mention

HM. 17 Shutouts (582 Starts): Greg Millen (Pittsburgh Penguins, Hartford Whalers, St. Louis Blues, Québec Nordiques, Chicago Blackhawks, Detroit Red Wings)

Most NHL Shutouts in a Single Season in the 1980s

1. 8 Shutouts: Pete Peeters (1982-83, Boston Bruins)
2. 7 Shutouts: Ed Belfour (1992-93, Chicago Blackhawks)
3. 6 Shutouts (51 Starts): Greg Millen (1988-89, St. Louis Blues)
4. 6 Shutouts (69 Starts): Tony Esposito (1979-80, Chicago Black Hawks)
5. 5 Shutouts (41 Starts): Tommy Soderstrom (1992-93, Philadelphia Flyers)
Honourable Mentions

HM. 5 Shutouts (42 Starts): Don Beaupre (1990-91, Washington Capitals)
HM. 5 Shutouts (45 Starts): Bob Essensa (1991-92, Winnipeg Jets)
HM. 5 Shutouts (47 Starts, 47 Games Played): Ken Dryden (1978-79, Montréal Canadiens)
HM. 5 Shutouts (47 Starts, 51 Games Played): Bob Froese (1985-86, Philadelphia Flyers)
HM. 5 Shutouts (51 Starts): Ed Belfour (1991-92, Chicago Blackhawks)
HM. 5 Shutouts (54 Starts): Tom Barrasso (1984-85, Buffalo Sabres)
HM. 5 Shutouts (63 Starts): Kirk McLean (1991-92, Vancouver Canucks)
HM. 5 Shutouts (66 Starts: Patrick Roy (1991-92, Montréal Canadiens)

Lowest NHL Goals Against Average in the 1980s

1. 2.70 GAA: Ed Belfour (Chicago Blackhawks)
2. 2.79 GAA: Patrick Roy (Montréal Canadiens)
3. 3.09 GAA: Pete Peeters (Philadelphia Flyers, Boston Bruins, Washington Capitals)
4. 3.10 GAA: Bob Froese (Philadelphia Flyers, New York Rangers)
5. 3.26 GAA: Bob Essensa (Winnipeg Jets)

Lowest NHL Goals Against Average in a Single Season in the 1980s

1. 2.30 GAA: Ken Dryden (1978-79, Montréal Canadiens)
2. 2.36 GAA: Patrick Roy (1991-92, Montréal Canadiens)
3. 2.37 GAA: Pete Peeters (1982-83, Boston Bruins)
4. 2.47 (2.471) GAA: Patrick Roy (1988-89, Montréal Canadiens)
5. 2.47 (2.472) GAA: Ed Belfour (1990-91, Chicago Blackhawks)
Highest NHL Save Percentage in the 1980s

1. .901 SV%: Ed Belfour (Chicago Blackhawks)
2. .901 SV%: Patrick Roy (Montréal Canadiens)
3. .896 SV%: Bob Essensa (Winnipeg Jets)
4. .891 SV%: Billy Smith (New York Islanders)
5. .890 (.89007) SV%: Ron Hextall (Philadelphia Flyers, Québec Nordiques)
Honourable Mentions

HM. .890 SV% (.89004): Jon Casey (Minnesota North Stars)
HM. .890 SV% (.8899): Kelly Hrudey (New York Islanders, Los Angeles Kings)
HM. .890 SV% (.8898): Bob Froese (Philadelphia Flyers, New York Rangers)
Highest NHL Save Percentage in a Single Season in the 1980s

1. .914 (.914175) SV%: Patrick Roy (1991-92, Montréal Canadiens)
2. .914 (.914170) SV%: Glenn (“Chico”) Resch (1978-79, New York Islanders)
3. .912 SV%: Patrick Roy (1989-90, Montréal Canadiens)
4. .911 SV%: Curtis Joseph (1992-93, St. Louis Blues)
5. .910 SV%: Bob Essensa (1991-92, Winnipeg Jets)
Most NHL Shots Faced in the 1980s

1. 18,880 Shots Faced: Mike Liut (St. Louis Blues, Hartford Whalers, Washington Capitals)
2. 18,002 Shots Faced: Greg Millen (Pittsburgh Penguins, Hartford Whalers, St. Louis Blues, Québec Nordiques, Chicago Blackhawks, Detroit Red Wings)
3. 16,186 Shots Faced: Grant Fuhr (Edmonton Oilers, Toronto Maple Leafs, Buffalo Sabres)


Most NHL Shots Saved in the 1980s

1. 16,662 Shots Saved: Mike Liut (St. Louis Blues, Hartford Whalers, Washington Capitals)
2. 15,721 Shots Saved: Greg Millen (Pittsburgh Penguins, Hartford Whalers, St. Louis Blues, Québec Nordiques, Chicago Blackhawks, Detroit Red Wings)
3. 14,301 Shots Saved: Grant Fuhr (Edmonton Oilers, Toronto Maple Leafs, Buffalo Sabres)
4. 13,514 Shots Saved: Don Beaupre (Minnesota North Stars, Washington Capitals)

Huh? All these stats demonstrate exactly what I said. Goalies were far worse and scoring was dramatically higher. Im not sure what you were going for here.
 

notDatsyuk

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Those stats do a great job showing that the best goalies in that era were putting up average at best numbers compared to the goalies of today. While the very elite could certainly pull through to today (Roy, Belfouf, etc) the
vast majority would struggle to be a backup in today's NHL.

Goaltending has simply evolved.

The 80's (you have some late 70's # btw) was a much different game than you see today and a lot of it was because of brutal goaltending.

I also watched games in the 80s fwiw.
The goal equipment was not only smaller, but a lot heavier. By 2000, my son's goal pads and gloves, combined, weighed less than one of my pads (and he was taller than me by then).

But the biggest difference was the style of play, with the influx of European players, along with people like Gretzky and Coffee, changing the game to a much more offence-oriented one. The offensive game has been starting to pick up the last couple of years, but I doubt we'll ever see that kind of wide-open style again.
 
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ACC1224

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Those stats do a great job showing that the best goalies in that era were putting up average at best numbers compared to the goalies of today. While the very elite could certainly pull through to today (Roy, Belfouf, etc) the
vast majority would struggle to be a backup in today's NHL.

Goaltending has simply evolved.

The 80's (you have some late 70's # btw) was a much different game than you see today and a lot of it was because of brutal goaltending.

I also watched games in the 80s fwiw.
Me too, Goaltending was terrible.
 

nsleaf

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Me too, Goaltending was terrible.

Yes and then the NHL decided to tip it the other way with the massive goalie equipment seeping in, then the goaltending was not so terrible, it's all about context.
Too many goals or too few, depends on what kind of hockey you like to watch.
 

ACC1224

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Yes and then the NHL decided to tip it the other way with the massive goalie equipment seeping in, then the goaltending was not so terrible, it's all about context.
Too many goals or too few, depends on what kind of hockey you like to watch.
IMO, hockey right now is the best it's ever been.
(other than the cap, hate the cap)
 

kb

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The totals will go up simply because the opposition ganging up their efforts on one line leaves 2 elite lines to score that neither has to be sheltered.
 

nsleaf

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IMO, hockey right now is the best it's ever been.
(other than the cap, hate the cap)

Agree, players are faster and more skilled, but I thought the same thing back then as well. Biggest difference for me is the Leafs are at the best I have ever seen compared to the league and can probably get even better, hopefully.
 

IPS

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Tampa Bay was 1st in GF with 290 goals this year. We were tied for third (with Pittsburgh) with 270.

If everything goes great what with the young players improving and Tavares fitting right in and producing elite numbers, how much can realistically be added to the 270 total from last year?
 

Coachcorner

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Over 300 with these fools.

Our 4th line won't be scoring much though, but our other dorks will lamp that thang real hard.
 
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Morbo

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I think we would have been right there with Tampa had our top player not missed 20 games.

assuming health we're #1 or close to it in GF this season.
 

Notsince67

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Tampa Bay was 1st in GF with 290 goals this year. We were tied for third (with Pittsburgh) with 270.

If everything goes great what with the young players improving and Tavares fitting right in and producing elite numbers, how much can realistically be added to the 270 total from last year?
I think quite a bit more. If the defense can exit the zone and not rely on guys like nylander to rush the puck up with no help and waste a low danger zone shot, the leafs might put a few more in. Slow the game up a tad and focus on controlled zone entry is the key.
 

Coachcorner

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Mayne. Mike Liut was a treal doer right there. I didn't remember him since I saw him in this thread. I remember playing with his in the nhl93 sega megadrive game when he was a capital. Other than that, I didn't see him play that much. Don Beaupre was the other true figga there then. This is real cool.
 

Mr Hockey

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Thinking we will be top 5 in goals, unless Babs decides to play more team defence than usual.
 

Hogan86

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We won't get over 300 goals. I'd say similar to last years totals, + or - 10 goals.
 

Animal

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Last season the Leafs scored 277 goals. I am going to list our projected line up and add up their goals that I think they will get this season. Let me know if you think I am off on certain players and what you think the Leafs total will be.

Marleau-30
Matthews-45
Nylander-25
Total=100

Hyman-17
Tavares-37
Marner-25
Total=79

Johnson-15
Kadri-35
Kapanen-15
Total=65

4th line total 30

Total for forwards is 274

Defense

Rielly-8
Hainsey-5
Gardiner-7
Zaitsev-7
Dermott-6
Carrick-4
Total-37

Outside sources like call ups, and 7th or 13th forward is 20 total.

Total Defence 57 including the call up totals, 13th forward and 7th D man.

Total of forwards and defence combined is 331

Thats a huge leap. But I gave every single player more goals based on age, experience, development, carreer progression, new linemates, the "JT" affect (JT changes the makeup of the lines by making other teams match but they cant match our depth)

Now I know these numbers are likely a little scewed but I dont think its unreasonable to think that the Leafs can score at least 300.

Before you jump down my throat on any player, ask yourself if its possible that they score what I said they will. Brown will be on the 4th line and he put in 14 himself last season.

Most of the minor adjustments came on defence where I only bumped them by 1 or 2 goals. As a matter of fact, we should expect our entire D corp to be better because we simply have much better forwards with another year experience for them to pass to.
So pretty much everyone has a career year. Thats realistic....
 

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