How many goals will the Leafs score this season.

[member 300185]

Last season the Leafs scored 277 goals. I am going to list our projected line up and add up their goals that I think they will get this season. Let me know if you think I am off on certain players and what you think the Leafs total will be.

Marleau-30
Matthews-45
Nylander-25
Total=100

Hyman-17
Tavares-37
Marner-25
Total=79

Johnson-15
Kadri-35
Kapanen-15
Total=65

4th line total 30

Total for forwards is 274

Defense

Rielly-8
Hainsey-5
Gardiner-7
Zaitsev-7
Dermott-6
Carrick-4
Total-37

Outside sources like call ups, and 7th or 13th forward is 20 total.

Total Defence 57 including the call up totals, 13th forward and 7th D man.

Total of forwards and defence combined is 331

Thats a huge leap. But I gave every single player more goals based on age, experience, development, carreer progression, new linemates, the "JT" affect (JT changes the makeup of the lines by making other teams match but they cant match our depth)

Now I know these numbers are likely a little scewed but I dont think its unreasonable to think that the Leafs can score at least 300.

Before you jump down my throat on any player, ask yourself if its possible that they score what I said they will. Brown will be on the 4th line and he put in 14 himself last season.

Most of the minor adjustments came on defence where I only bumped them by 1 or 2 goals. As a matter of fact, we should expect our entire D corp to be better because we simply have much better forwards with another year experience for them to pass to.

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[56 Years No Cup]

Haven't ever seen this thread before....

 

[Duke Silver]

The most goals any team has scored since 2013-14 is 290

Side note: Interesting that 6 of the top 7 are 2017-18 teams.

The Leafs will probably end up in the 285-290 territory.

As other have said in previous threads, goal differential matters more than goals scored.

 

[member 300185]

The most goals any team has scored since 2013-14 is 290

Side note: Interesting that 6 of the top 7 are 2017-18 teams.

The Leafs will probably end up in the 285-290 territory.

As other have said in previous threads, goal differential matters more than goals scored.

Small sample size. I went back to 1980 and there have been over 30 teams score more than 300 goals in a season including 1985 when the Oilers scored 450 plus.

 

[Joey Hoser]

Small sample size. I went back to 1980 and there have been over 30 teams score more than 300 goals in a season including 1985 when the Oilers scored 450 plus.

Uhh... In the 80's, goalies just stood there like an idiot and there was like 10 goals a game. That's really not relevant today.

 

[member 300185]

Uhh... In the 80's, goalies just stood there like an idiot and there was like 10 goals a game. That's really not relevant today.

exaggerate much?

 

[biotk]

Uhh... In the 80's, goalies just stood there like an idiot and there was like 10 goals a game. That's really not relevant today.

What if goalies get together and decide to start just standing there like idiots again this season?

 

[A1LeafNation]

 

[Joey Hoser]

exaggerate much?

Barely.

 

[Gallagbi]

Barely.

It's pretty spot on to be honest, the goalies were horrendous.

 

[member 300185]

It's pretty spot on to be honest, the goalies were horrendous.

Thats what the young kids think nowadays because someone said it once. But they don't know what the hell they are talking about.
1. 43 Wins (61 Starts): Tom Barrasso (1992-93, Pittsburgh Penguins)
2. 43 Wins (70 Starts): Ed Belfour (1990-91, Chicago Blackhawks).
3. 41 Wins: Ed Belfour (1992-93, Chicago Blackhawks)
4. 40 Wins (61 Starts): Pete Peeters (1982-83, Boston Bruins)
5. 40 Wins (63 Starts): Pelle Lindbergh (1984-85, Philadelphia Flyers)

1. 293 Wins: Mike Liut (St. Louis Blues, Hartford Whalers, Washington Capitals)
2. 279 Wins: Andy Moog (Edmonton Oilers, Boston Bruins)
3. 275 Wins: Grant Fuhr (Edmonton Oilers, Toronto Maple Leafs, Buffalo Sabres)
4. 246 Wins: Pete Peeters (Philadelphia Flyers, Boston Bruins, Washington Capitals)
5. 244 Wins: Tom Barrasso (Buffalo Sabres, Pittsburgh Penguins)

Most NHL Shutouts in the 1980s

1. 25 Shutouts: Mike Liut (St. Louis Blues, Hartford Whalers, Washington Capitals)
2. 21 Shutouts: Pete Peeters (Philadelphia Flyers, Boston Bruins, Washington Capitals)
3. 20 Shutouts: Patrick Roy (Montréal Canadiens)
4. 19 Shutouts: Tom Barrasso (Buffalo Sabres, Pittsburgh Penguins)
5. 17 Shutouts (459 Starts): Andy Moog (Edmonton Oilers, Boston Bruins)
Honourable Mention

HM. 17 Shutouts (582 Starts): Greg Millen (Pittsburgh Penguins, Hartford Whalers, St. Louis Blues, Québec Nordiques, Chicago Blackhawks, Detroit Red Wings)

Most NHL Shutouts in a Single Season in the 1980s

1. 8 Shutouts: Pete Peeters (1982-83, Boston Bruins)
2. 7 Shutouts: Ed Belfour (1992-93, Chicago Blackhawks)
3. 6 Shutouts (51 Starts): Greg Millen (1988-89, St. Louis Blues)
4. 6 Shutouts (69 Starts): Tony Esposito (1979-80, Chicago Black Hawks)
5. 5 Shutouts (41 Starts): Tommy Soderstrom (1992-93, Philadelphia Flyers)
Honourable Mentions

HM. 5 Shutouts (42 Starts): Don Beaupre (1990-91, Washington Capitals)
HM. 5 Shutouts (45 Starts): Bob Essensa (1991-92, Winnipeg Jets)
HM. 5 Shutouts (47 Starts, 47 Games Played): Ken Dryden (1978-79, Montréal Canadiens)
HM. 5 Shutouts (47 Starts, 51 Games Played): Bob Froese (1985-86, Philadelphia Flyers)
HM. 5 Shutouts (51 Starts): Ed Belfour (1991-92, Chicago Blackhawks)
HM. 5 Shutouts (54 Starts): Tom Barrasso (1984-85, Buffalo Sabres)
HM. 5 Shutouts (63 Starts): Kirk McLean (1991-92, Vancouver Canucks)
HM. 5 Shutouts (66 Starts: Patrick Roy (1991-92, Montréal Canadiens)

Lowest NHL Goals Against Average in the 1980s

1. 2.70 GAA: Ed Belfour (Chicago Blackhawks)
2. 2.79 GAA: Patrick Roy (Montréal Canadiens)
3. 3.09 GAA: Pete Peeters (Philadelphia Flyers, Boston Bruins, Washington Capitals)
4. 3.10 GAA: Bob Froese (Philadelphia Flyers, New York Rangers)
5. 3.26 GAA: Bob Essensa (Winnipeg Jets)

Lowest NHL Goals Against Average in a Single Season in the 1980s

1. 2.30 GAA: Ken Dryden (1978-79, Montréal Canadiens)
2. 2.36 GAA: Patrick Roy (1991-92, Montréal Canadiens)
3. 2.37 GAA: Pete Peeters (1982-83, Boston Bruins)
4. 2.47 (2.471) GAA: Patrick Roy (1988-89, Montréal Canadiens)
5. 2.47 (2.472) GAA: Ed Belfour (1990-91, Chicago Blackhawks)
Highest NHL Save Percentage in the 1980s

1. .901 SV%: Ed Belfour (Chicago Blackhawks)
2. .901 SV%: Patrick Roy (Montréal Canadiens)
3. .896 SV%: Bob Essensa (Winnipeg Jets)
4. .891 SV%: Billy Smith (New York Islanders)
5. .890 (.89007) SV%: Ron Hextall (Philadelphia Flyers, Québec Nordiques)
Honourable Mentions

HM. .890 SV% (.89004): Jon Casey (Minnesota North Stars)
HM. .890 SV% (.8899): Kelly Hrudey (New York Islanders, Los Angeles Kings)
HM. .890 SV% (.8898): Bob Froese (Philadelphia Flyers, New York Rangers)
Highest NHL Save Percentage in a Single Season in the 1980s

1. .914 (.914175) SV%: Patrick Roy (1991-92, Montréal Canadiens)
2. .914 (.914170) SV%: Glenn (“Chico”) Resch (1978-79, New York Islanders)
3. .912 SV%: Patrick Roy (1989-90, Montréal Canadiens)
4. .911 SV%: Curtis Joseph (1992-93, St. Louis Blues)
5. .910 SV%: Bob Essensa (1991-92, Winnipeg Jets)
Most NHL Shots Faced in the 1980s

1. 18,880 Shots Faced: Mike Liut (St. Louis Blues, Hartford Whalers, Washington Capitals)
2. 18,002 Shots Faced: Greg Millen (Pittsburgh Penguins, Hartford Whalers, St. Louis Blues, Québec Nordiques, Chicago Blackhawks, Detroit Red Wings)
3. 16,186 Shots Faced: Grant Fuhr (Edmonton Oilers, Toronto Maple Leafs, Buffalo Sabres)


Most NHL Shots Saved in the 1980s

1. 16,662 Shots Saved: Mike Liut (St. Louis Blues, Hartford Whalers, Washington Capitals)
2. 15,721 Shots Saved: Greg Millen (Pittsburgh Penguins, Hartford Whalers, St. Louis Blues, Québec Nordiques, Chicago Blackhawks, Detroit Red Wings)
3. 14,301 Shots Saved: Grant Fuhr (Edmonton Oilers, Toronto Maple Leafs, Buffalo Sabres)
4. 13,514 Shots Saved: Don Beaupre (Minnesota North Stars, Washington Capitals)

 

[Gallagbi]

Thats what the young kids think nowadays because someone said it once. But they don't know what the hell they are talking about.
1. 43 Wins (61 Starts): Tom Barrasso (1992-93, Pittsburgh Penguins)
2. 43 Wins (70 Starts): Ed Belfour (1990-91, Chicago Blackhawks).
3. 41 Wins: Ed Belfour (1992-93, Chicago Blackhawks)
4. 40 Wins (61 Starts): Pete Peeters (1982-83, Boston Bruins)
5. 40 Wins (63 Starts): Pelle Lindbergh (1984-85, Philadelphia Flyers)

1. 293 Wins: Mike Liut (St. Louis Blues, Hartford Whalers, Washington Capitals)
2. 279 Wins: Andy Moog (Edmonton Oilers, Boston Bruins)
3. 275 Wins: Grant Fuhr (Edmonton Oilers, Toronto Maple Leafs, Buffalo Sabres)
4. 246 Wins: Pete Peeters (Philadelphia Flyers, Boston Bruins, Washington Capitals)
5. 244 Wins: Tom Barrasso (Buffalo Sabres, Pittsburgh Penguins)

Most NHL Shutouts in the 1980s

1. 25 Shutouts: Mike Liut (St. Louis Blues, Hartford Whalers, Washington Capitals)
2. 21 Shutouts: Pete Peeters (Philadelphia Flyers, Boston Bruins, Washington Capitals)
3. 20 Shutouts: Patrick Roy (Montréal Canadiens)
4. 19 Shutouts: Tom Barrasso (Buffalo Sabres, Pittsburgh Penguins)
5. 17 Shutouts (459 Starts): Andy Moog (Edmonton Oilers, Boston Bruins)
Honourable Mention

HM. 17 Shutouts (582 Starts): Greg Millen (Pittsburgh Penguins, Hartford Whalers, St. Louis Blues, Québec Nordiques, Chicago Blackhawks, Detroit Red Wings)

Most NHL Shutouts in a Single Season in the 1980s

1. 8 Shutouts: Pete Peeters (1982-83, Boston Bruins)
2. 7 Shutouts: Ed Belfour (1992-93, Chicago Blackhawks)
3. 6 Shutouts (51 Starts): Greg Millen (1988-89, St. Louis Blues)
4. 6 Shutouts (69 Starts): Tony Esposito (1979-80, Chicago Black Hawks)
5. 5 Shutouts (41 Starts): Tommy Soderstrom (1992-93, Philadelphia Flyers)
Honourable Mentions

HM. 5 Shutouts (42 Starts): Don Beaupre (1990-91, Washington Capitals)
HM. 5 Shutouts (45 Starts): Bob Essensa (1991-92, Winnipeg Jets)
HM. 5 Shutouts (47 Starts, 47 Games Played): Ken Dryden (1978-79, Montréal Canadiens)
HM. 5 Shutouts (47 Starts, 51 Games Played): Bob Froese (1985-86, Philadelphia Flyers)
HM. 5 Shutouts (51 Starts): Ed Belfour (1991-92, Chicago Blackhawks)
HM. 5 Shutouts (54 Starts): Tom Barrasso (1984-85, Buffalo Sabres)
HM. 5 Shutouts (63 Starts): Kirk McLean (1991-92, Vancouver Canucks)
HM. 5 Shutouts (66 Starts: Patrick Roy (1991-92, Montréal Canadiens)

Lowest NHL Goals Against Average in the 1980s

1. 2.70 GAA: Ed Belfour (Chicago Blackhawks)
2. 2.79 GAA: Patrick Roy (Montréal Canadiens)
3. 3.09 GAA: Pete Peeters (Philadelphia Flyers, Boston Bruins, Washington Capitals)
4. 3.10 GAA: Bob Froese (Philadelphia Flyers, New York Rangers)
5. 3.26 GAA: Bob Essensa (Winnipeg Jets)

Lowest NHL Goals Against Average in a Single Season in the 1980s

1. 2.30 GAA: Ken Dryden (1978-79, Montréal Canadiens)
2. 2.36 GAA: Patrick Roy (1991-92, Montréal Canadiens)
3. 2.37 GAA: Pete Peeters (1982-83, Boston Bruins)
4. 2.47 (2.471) GAA: Patrick Roy (1988-89, Montréal Canadiens)
5. 2.47 (2.472) GAA: Ed Belfour (1990-91, Chicago Blackhawks)
Highest NHL Save Percentage in the 1980s

1. .901 SV%: Ed Belfour (Chicago Blackhawks)
2. .901 SV%: Patrick Roy (Montréal Canadiens)
3. .896 SV%: Bob Essensa (Winnipeg Jets)
4. .891 SV%: Billy Smith (New York Islanders)
5. .890 (.89007) SV%: Ron Hextall (Philadelphia Flyers, Québec Nordiques)
Honourable Mentions

HM. .890 SV% (.89004): Jon Casey (Minnesota North Stars)
HM. .890 SV% (.8899): Kelly Hrudey (New York Islanders, Los Angeles Kings)
HM. .890 SV% (.8898): Bob Froese (Philadelphia Flyers, New York Rangers)
Highest NHL Save Percentage in a Single Season in the 1980s

1. .914 (.914175) SV%: Patrick Roy (1991-92, Montréal Canadiens)
2. .914 (.914170) SV%: Glenn (“Chico”) Resch (1978-79, New York Islanders)
3. .912 SV%: Patrick Roy (1989-90, Montréal Canadiens)
4. .911 SV%: Curtis Joseph (1992-93, St. Louis Blues)
5. .910 SV%: Bob Essensa (1991-92, Winnipeg Jets)
Most NHL Shots Faced in the 1980s

1. 18,880 Shots Faced: Mike Liut (St. Louis Blues, Hartford Whalers, Washington Capitals)
2. 18,002 Shots Faced: Greg Millen (Pittsburgh Penguins, Hartford Whalers, St. Louis Blues, Québec Nordiques, Chicago Blackhawks, Detroit Red Wings)
3. 16,186 Shots Faced: Grant Fuhr (Edmonton Oilers, Toronto Maple Leafs, Buffalo Sabres)


Most NHL Shots Saved in the 1980s

1. 16,662 Shots Saved: Mike Liut (St. Louis Blues, Hartford Whalers, Washington Capitals)
2. 15,721 Shots Saved: Greg Millen (Pittsburgh Penguins, Hartford Whalers, St. Louis Blues, Québec Nordiques, Chicago Blackhawks, Detroit Red Wings)
3. 14,301 Shots Saved: Grant Fuhr (Edmonton Oilers, Toronto Maple Leafs, Buffalo Sabres)
4. 13,514 Shots Saved: Don Beaupre (Minnesota North Stars, Washington Capitals)

Those stats do a great job showing that the best goalies in that era were putting up average at best numbers compared to the goalies of today. While the very elite could certainly pull through to today (Roy, Belfouf, etc) the
vast majority would struggle to be a backup in today's NHL.

Goaltending has simply evolved.

The 80's (you have some late 70's # btw) was a much different game than you see today and a lot of it was because of brutal goaltending.

I also watched games in the 80s fwiw.

 

[Duke Silver]

Small sample size. I went back to 1980 and there have been over 30 teams score more than 300 goals in a season including 1985 when the Oilers scored 450 plus.

Are you... are you being serious?

 

[member 300185]

Those stats do a great job showing that the best goalies in that era were putting up average at best numbers compared to the goalies of today. While the very elite could certainly pull through to today (Roy, Belfouf, etc) the
vast majority would struggle to be a backup in today's NHL.

Goaltending has simply evolved.

The 80's (you have some late 70's # btw) was a much different game than you see today and a lot of it was because of brutal goaltending.

I also watched games in the 80s fwiw.

While wearing tiny gear.

 

[Advanced stats]

OP are you seriously optimistic for a 60 goal improvement from last season? That's almost a 25% increase which is absolutely insane.

The chances of us hitting 300 are slim at best, but if I had to bet on one team hitting it, it would be the leafs. 285 -290 would be fantastic.

Matthews 45
Nylander 28
Hyman 18

Tavares 38
Marner 26
Marleau 22

Brown 15
Kadri 25
Kapanen 18

Johanson, Lindholm, jooris, Ennis, Grundy, player XYZ - 25 goals.

Forwards = 260(assuming best health scenario)

Defense put up 32 last year, and won't improve dramatically. Our defense will have lower goal totals in general because we don't have any elite PP shot and we run 4-1 powerplays anyways.

Total? 292 best case scenario .

 

[hector morrison]

I'm sure it's the excitement of having 2 #1 centers (Auston,John) and one of the best counter -centers (Naz) which I expect will result in some lop-sided scores,given the match-up problems that other teams will have,But I think over 300 is a given. I think Matthews rips it up this year ! Leading the league in goals scored . The pp is gonna be even better than last year(if the refs call anything) as well ! I expect this team to be a scoring machine!

 

[Marshy]

I will say 290 conservatively.

 

[LeafGrief]

Round(ish) numbers

Matthews - 50
Tavares - 37
Nylander - 28
Marner - 25
Kadri - 25
Marleau - 20
Johnsson - 20
Kapanen - 15
Hyman - 15
Brown - 10
Two fourth liners - Total 10
245 goals from the forwards

Rielly - 10
Gardiner - 10
Zaitsev - 5
Dermott - 10
Hainsey - 2
Carrick - 3

40 Goals from the defence

285 goals is a little optimistic, but that's roughly how i see the scoring breaking down.

 

[GardinerTheForward]

babcock will not play run and gun which will prevent leafs from getting 300 goals. otherwise yes we would win or lose 6-5, 5-4

 

[Community]

Marleau - 25
Matthews - 50
Nylander - 25
= 100 goals

Hyman - 20
Tavares - 35
Marner - 25
= 80 goals

Johnsson - 20
Kadri - 25
Kapanen - 20
= 55 goals

Brown - 15
Lindholm - 10
Leivo/Jooris/Ennis - 10
= 35 goals

30 goals from the defense


300 goals total from the team if every player played 82 games. However, the actual total will depend on how many players miss how many games. I can definitely see any of the top 9 guys (except Hyman and Matthews) hit higher goal totals than what I posted. These numbers are what I expect though and I think this is fairly likely if they each play 82 games.

Edit: So with injuries the goal total probably drops to 270-290.

 

[biotk]

272

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Last season the Leafs scored 277 goals.

Wrong.

270 is the right number.

The number that you used is found in the NHL standings.

They add one GF for each SO win (7 last year) and one GA for each SO loss.

So the right numbers are 270 GF and 230 GA.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

I can’t see us hitting 300... would be nice though.

 

[Voodoo Child]

Marleau 24
Matthews 45
Nylander 23

Hyman 18
Tavares 33
Marner 26

Kapanen 11
Kadri 28
Johnsson 17

4th line 21

Forwards 246

Rielly 7
Gardiner 10
Hainsey 3
Dermott 4

Bottom pair and 7th D total (Carrick, Borgman, Rosen et al) 7

Defense total 31

Total 277

Which is right in line with the 275-290 estimates most have. I don't know if we'll be the highest scoring team but we should be top three.

 

[MagicalRazor]

I'm not gonna break down every player but I think they will score 282

Goalies have new equipment this year if you'll forgot they made their Pads smaller , and next saeson they are going to change the Chest protector size of goalie smaller as well , So expect more goals in the next 2 years.

& if you forgot we also have the best forward group in the NHL IMO