How Long Can the Penguins & Wings stay over the Cap?

[Habs Halifax]

Cap Friendly shows the Wings and Pens over the cap by $5.5M/$4.5M (cap ceiling of $73M) (https://www.capfriendly.com/). Wings have a 22 man roster and Pens have a 23 man roster. How long will the NHL allow them to operate with cap overages? It's one thing to be over by $1M (+/-) but $4.5 and $5.5 are a huge amount to work around. Am I missing something here or will we be seeing some trades here soon?

Also, I'm very curious to see what the Pens do between Fleury (NMC and has to be protected in upcoming expansion draft) and Murray who's will be left unprotected. I suspect JR is trying to trade Fleury but there are no takers so the next logical trade is Murray but that still leaves them with a cap problem. It should get interesting!

Anybody have any info on this?

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[Ziggyjoe21]

Cap Friendly shows the Wings and Pens over the cap by $5.5M/$4.5M (cap ceiling of $73M) (https://www.capfriendly.com/). Wings have a 22 man roster and Pens have a 23 man roster. How long will the NHL allow them to operate with cap overages? It's one thing to be over by $1M (+/-) but $4.5 and $5.5 are a huge amount to work around. Am I missing something here or will we be seeing some trades here soon?

Also, I'm very curious to see what the Pens do between Fleury (NMC and has to be protected in upcoming expansion draft) and Murray who's will be left unprotected. I suspect JR is trying to trade Fleury but there are no takers so the next logical trade is Murray but that still leaves them with a cap problem. It should get interesting!

Anybody have any info on this?

How can the wings be over the cap? They have barely any vets or good players that warrant a high salary.

Remember how 5 years ago Holland was the gold standard for GM's?

 

[#1GuinFan]

LTIR cap relief. Pens are under the cap with it. Not sure what Detroit's situation is.

 

[Deutschland Dangler]

Yes, you're missing something. That something is called LTIR.

 

[canuckster19]

Aren't the LTIRs counted into it? If you subtract the LTIRs they're below.

 

[Habs Halifax]

How can the wings be over the cap? They have barely any vets or good players that warrant a high salary.

Remember how 5 years ago Holland was the gold standard for GM's?

Look at the link I posted from Cap Friendly. The one suspect guy who should be listed as long term injury reserve is N Kronwall. His salary is $4.75M so maybe its an error on the site? Other than that, you'll be surprise at some of the salaries posted.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Wings are not over the cap. They have Franzen, Jurco and Vitale on LTIR which puts them right under the cap.

How can the wings be over the cap? They have barely any vets or good players that warrant a high salary.

Remember how 5 years ago Holland was the gold standard for GM's?

Those barely any good players are on a 5 game winning streak tho.

 

[Deutschland Dangler]

Aren't the LTIRs counted into it? If you subtract the LTIRs they're below.

The website the OP referenced even has a column with the LTIR-adjusted cap space...

 

[Sojourn]

Asked and answered. You didn't factor in LTIR.