WolfgangPuck
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They don’t even have to draft well. Seems like a lots of prime UFA want to sign with Vegas as their prefer destination
How long before Vegas misses the playoffs?
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DudeWhereIsMakar
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I doubt it happens for like 20+ years if I'm being honest. They'll remain to be a team to attract superstars in ways no other team can. I can almost call they're going to land Connor McDavid or Jack Eichel where it makes everything a lot more interesting.
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They're gonna win more cups than times they'll miss the playoffs by 2050.
Pretty much this and while I don't expect them to miss the playoffs in the next 2 to 3 years that’s a really long time in the current NHL and a lot can happen, ie bad luck injuries etc.
Skinnyjimmy08
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Not gonna happen for a very long time... Vegas will be a UFA hotspot for a very very long time. I'm sure Vegas is extremely high on every free agents list and alot of guys will take less money to go there.
They have already built a winning culture, living is cheap, it's gorgeous there, crowd is bananas and you don't need to own a pair of pants if you don't want lol
They will be a contender for many many years
They have already built a winning culture, living is cheap, it's gorgeous there, crowd is bananas and you don't need to own a pair of pants if you don't want lol
They will be a contender for many many years
Mickey Marner
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Not any time soon. They'll likely win a cup before they miss.
Yes it doesn't seem fair that their fans are spoiled and haven't gone for years missing the playoffs, there have been no bad years for them and they look like they're going to be strong for more years.
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No state income tax probably helps. As does having a brand new arena + practice center.
Signing both Stone + Piets was huge, but the flat cap probably helped them sign the latter last year.
Colorado fans were also spoiled at first, but they learned to suffer. Vegas' time will come.
TheReelChuckFletcher
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It's mainly the winning that makes Vegas a top UFA destination. I wouldn't be shocked if Carolina/Tampa/Vegas have a long run of supremacy at the top of the league (Colorado's window may be shorter because they lack a strong drafting record outside of the 1st round). An underrated aspect of Vegas' success is that their drafting has been incredibly efficient and strong. It shows not necessarily through rote value on the team, but rather through the trade value that's been accumulated to get guys like Pacioretty and Stone, among others.
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When they hire a GM who destroys them with awful trades, bad draft picks, terrible UFA signings, cap management, bad coaching hires.
It's crazy how much damage one guy can do to a franchise. The ramifications of it can last for a decade.
It's crazy how much damage one guy can do to a franchise. The ramifications of it can last for a decade.
TheReelChuckFletcher
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McPhee and McCrimmon seem like long-termers, though. I will argue that bad drafting tends to be more of a systemic thing than on one individual. GMs can make a huge difference with just trades and signings, however.
The expansion draft rules are just terrible now. A new team coming in is instantly given a better chance than over 50% of the current league. I get why, you wanna get the new market attracted right away, revenue etc. bla bla, just sucks as a fan of an existing team but meh. They prob won't miss the playoffs for at least another 5 years.
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I don’t think this is the case. What happened in Vegas was a sports miracle. That will never happen again. That’s some Hollywood movie script stuff we witnessed.
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20+ years?
There are only a handful of teams in NHL history who have been able to do that. Maybe they could do it (anything is possible), but just being able to attract select players in free agency doesn't make a playoff team continue to be a playoff team indefinitely.
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Bergevin sent me an offer sheet
Their low tax rates say otherwise. Which is why the NHL needs to do a tax-cap so taxes aren't included within the players contract, it would be but after but it would make it irrelevant on where they'd make more money wherever they played.
I will likely be dead by then but if you are still around please hire a medium to let me know if this is accurate. Fascinating prediction, actually.
EDIT: So fascinating that I just looked at some history on how many teams have won the SC more times than they have missed the PO over a 30 year period. Since expansion I believe only Montreal and Boston have done it. Pittsburgh will have done it if they make the playoffs next year. The Wings, did 'as many' but not more.
EDIT2: Error in the above, Pittsburgh has done it. COVID has me thinking that it is still 2020.
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Them having a high or low tax rate isn't the issue. Relying solely on free agency to keep your team a playoff contender will not work long term.
Maybe they can get some good players in the draft during that time, but without picking high in the first round it will be much more difficult. Most of their core is either around 30 or over 30 years old. In order to go another 16 years they would have to replace those players in some capacity. Free agency is very unlikely to be the solution.
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