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Would you say it was very similar to the current Weber-Suter pairing today?
I should say that the only full Preds game I've seen this year was a December-ish poor showing against Ottawa, but even still MacInnis and Uncle Gary were both offensive threats for d-men.
Weber goes two ways and may wind up in the HHOF like both MacInnis and Suter did. He's still several years away from that though.
The younger Suter is solid, but nothing special on offense. Plus he has yet to shove his stick in the back of Crosby, head of Iginla, and face of Alexander Semin. (Equivalents to Gretzky 91, Kariya 98, random Russian guy 87.)
Gary Suter was never as good of a defenseman as either Shea Weber or Ryan Suter is currently. What makes the Suter-Weber pairing so incredible is that they are almost dead-even in terms of performance and ability, and both are probably top-10 defensemen in the league. Gary was never a true #1 defenseman, something you could say that both Ryan and Weber are. But at the same time, neither one of the Nashville duo is likely ever going to become the player that Al MacInnis was. MacInnis was one of the five to ten best defensemen in the NHL for a span of almost 15 years. Between 1987 and 2003, a span of 16 seasons, MacInnis finished in the top-8 in Norris Trophy voting 10 times, including winning it in 1999, and finishing runner-up three times; to Ray Bourque in 1989 and 1990 and Nicklas Lidstrom in 2003. He was one of the greatest all-around defensemen in NHL history, and is often overshadowed by his booming slapshot, which changed the league like few other individual skills have. The most fitting tribute to Big Al is that age 25, he was the runner-up for the Norris; at age 35, he won the Norris; and at age 39, he was again a runner-up for the Norris. He scored 66 points in his first full season and 68 points in his last full season 18 years later. It is longevity at it's finest.
As an overall pairing, I would say that Ryan Suter and Shea Weber were better. Especially at even-strength. MacInnis and Suter were far more lethal on the powerplay, but even then, most of that is due to MacInnis. The difference between the two pairings is, while Al MacInnis was by far the best defenseman out of the four discussed, Weber and Ryan Suter are already better than Gary Suter ever was.
"I've never played for a coach that enjoyed power-play work more than Bob," MacInnis said. "He would set aside a full hour and break up the team into two power-play units and two penalty-killing units. Each unit would play against each other for a minute and then switch. He just loved it. To me, he was ahead of his time in regard to teaching tactical hockey and the power play. He was an advanced student of the game.
"Under Bob, the Flames were always near the top power-play team in the NHL. We had at least one season when we were over 30-percent successful and that's unheard of. Just look at our right wings, Hakan Loob, Joe Mullen and Lanny McDonald. We had Joe Nieuwendyk and Joel Otto at center. Gary Roberts and Theo Fleury on the left side. Gary Suter was my partner on the other point for most of those years. We had so much talent and goal-scoring ability.
"We had great hockey players with great hockey sense. When you have that and a coach like Bob Johnson, it won us a lot of games."
Disagree.Clearly overrating Ryan & Weber OR underrating Gary.