Tweed
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I honestly forgot about 87 when I initially posted that, but his 3rd place finish there was so far behind the leaders
1987:
1993 is a lot closer, but in retrospect, it sure looks like being the #1 on Mario Lemieux's team helped him:[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Place Player Age Tm Pos Votes Vote% 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th G A PTS +/- OPS DPS GPS PS 1 Ray Bourque 26 BOS D 266 98.52 52 2 0 23 72 95 44 7.2 6.4 0.0 13.6 2 Mark Howe 31 PHI D 137 50.74 1 42 6 15 43 58 57 4.1 6.5 0.0 10.5 3 Larry Murphy 25 WSH D 31 11.48 0 5 16 23 58 81 25 6.1 5.7 0.0 11.9 4 Larry Robinson 35 MTL D 12 4.44 0 2 6 13 37 50 24 3.2 5.7 0.0 9.0 5 Paul Coffey 25 EDM D 10 3.70 1 0 5 17 50 67 13 5.0 2.6 0.0 7.
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Place Player Age Tm Pos Votes Vote% 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th G A PTS +/- OPS DPS GPS PS 1 Chris Chelios 31 CHI D 201 80.40 33 10 6 15 58 73 14 4.8 6.3 0.0 11.1 2 Ray Bourque 32 BOS D 97 38.80 6 19 10 19 63 82 38 5.9 6.3 0.0 12.2 3 Larry Murphy 31 PIT D 93 37.20 9 11 15 22 63 85 45 6.2 6.2 0.0 12.4 4 Kevin Hatcher 26 WSH D 17 6.80 0 5 2 34 45 79 -7 6.6 4.0 0.0 10.6 5 Phil Housley 28 WIN D 16 6.40 1 2 5 18 79 97 -14 6.8 2.9 0.0 9.8
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I don't agree or disagree with you. I was just surprised to hear that he wasn't close to being a Norris level defenseman (based on what you said), so I looked it up and came across The Panther's post from years ago. Thought I'd just relay it back to you to see if you feel differently. I think if I had to weigh in on it... I'd say 7x nominated, especially those 3rds, would be enough to say he was close. But there's "close" as in "just edged out" and then there's "close" as in "in the conversation"... and I'm assuming you view "close" as the former.
So for all intents and purposes, I'm just pushing the ball forward and tossing it back into your court, for the sake of the conversation. Again, no personal opinion here, and don't agree or disagree with you.