How Confident Are You In Babcock?

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How Confident Are You in Babcock? (Read)

Poll closed Feb 8, 2019.
  1. 100% Confident

    15.6%
  2. I have some concerns but he's the right coach

    28.9%
  3. I am not very confident in him right now but maybe he'll turn it around

    32.6%
  4. I have zero confidence in his ability to win with this group

    23.0%
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  1. dsred

    dsred Babcock- Flushing seasons away since 2008

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    If only someone had that stat about percentage of goals score off the rush handy.
     
  2. Maple Leafs

    Maple Leafs Toronto

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    Babcock has analytics and video department, advisors, etc and 20 years of NHL coaching with him, If he says the majority of goals are not scored off the rush, it would be dumb not to believe him?
     
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  3. 2022 Stanley Cup

    2022 Stanley Cup Registered User

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    We need to see Dermott play more minutes. Him getting ~13 minutes is way too low especially if we need him to play top 4 next year
     
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    Jeffrey Pedler Registered User

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    He needs to be on the second pairing, his talent is wasted on the third.
     
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    I'd love to see what him and Gardiner could do together. Even Rielly-Dermott and Muzzin-Gardiner could be really good
     
  6. dsred

    dsred Babcock- Flushing seasons away since 2008

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    There are stats available that say otherwise but I don't know where to find them. They have been quoted here before.

    Nice try, Mrs. Babcock.
     
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    lol, ok if you say so
     
  8. baton elevated

    baton elevated One Man Gang

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    Pat Burns was hands down the best coach........period.
     
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  9. HamiltonNHL

    HamiltonNHL Parity era hockey is just luck

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    Yea ! why is that ?
     
  10. LeafFever

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    There are so many guys playing too little on this roster. Johnsson has been one of the elite NHL 5 on 5 scorers since late November, yet he's stuck on the 3rd and 4th lines.
    Dermott, Johnsson, Matthews badly need more TOI.
     
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    Duffman955 Registered User

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    This team doesn't play as good as the sum of their parts

    Is it because of coaching or player composition?
     
  12. LeafFever

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    Coaching imo.
     
  13. HamiltonNHL

    HamiltonNHL Parity era hockey is just luck

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    Do the players respect and want to work hard for Babcock ?

    I have my doubts
     
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  14. A1LeafNation

    A1LeafNation Our time! Our time!

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    Check out @hayyyshayyy’s Tweet:
     
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    A lot of people argue the player composition argue from the angle of us not being big and tough enough. I myself don't see it, I think the Leafs win a decent amount of 50/50 puck battles but some people just expect us to win every puck battle, they're called "50/50" battles for a reason. In the defensive zone, it's not so much that our guys lose the battles on the boards, it's that they're never good with their positioning. And as far as our puck movement goes with the stretch passes, it can look like a complete mess at times.

    Defensive zone play is not about perfection though. Now that Muzzin's here are he's made a few noticeable ****-ups, I think people are realizing that the grass isn't always greener on the side. Even the best make shameful mistakes. Adding Wayne Simmonds and Gudas won't have much of a noticeable effect on the team IMO, these types of guys will make their own mistakes as well and the toughness they allegedly should bring is overstated IMO.

    The team composition is totally fine IMO. We have two elite #1C's, two elite #1RW's, a decent #1D and a decent #2D with the acquisition of Muzzin along with one of the best goalies in the league. We fit the bill totally fine, in fact, when we do a player-for-player comparison around the league, extremely few teams can match us, and we have a legit case for being the best team on paper. In sheer talent, the core is unquestionably elite and our supporting cast is most definitely above average. We are long past the days of having Kadri/Bozak as our top-6 C's and Phaneuf/Gunnarsson as our top pairing.
     
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    Is Babcock perfect? No

    One way to gauge a good coach is see how the younger players develop. So far The majority of our young players have developed quite nicely.

    I believe he holds young guys back at times on purpose so they feel the need to continue to get better. Although some people get frustrated by this, in the end I think it’s the best way to develop for lack of a better term “Gud Pros”

    There really isn’t a reason to think he can’t be trusted, as this team continue to get better.
     
  17. IPS

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    It's how we know Randy Carlyle is a good coach.
     
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    HamiltonNHL Parity era hockey is just luck

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    Hyman, shouldn't you be getting ready for the game ?
     
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    HamiltonNHL Parity era hockey is just luck

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    Babcock is reasonable.
    But Marleau can't play a top 6 role in the playoffs.
     
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    WilliamNylander Papi's home

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    Rielly and Kadri really flourished after Horachek developed them
     
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    Actually, Carlyle did a superb job developing Getzlaf and Perry in Anaheim. I suppose credit given where credit is due.
     
  23. ACC1224

    ACC1224 Keeping it real, someone has to.

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    Why didn't Bowen call the game last night?
     
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    SAMCRO44 Registered User Sponsor

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    He's ill I believe laryngitis
     
  25. zeke

    zeke The Dube Abides

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    Don't think randy's the reason why both were scoring 2pts per game in the AHL.
     
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