How about Mikko Koskinen?

mouz135

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Small sample size but looks okay so far. As others have said, will reserve judgement until the season is over, or later next year
 

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Last few years Koskinen has got the ice over Raanta on the Finnish NT. So far Koskinen's play is about what I expected, maybe slightly better

Mid range starter for a few years, but he is pushing 30 already.
 

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As the only way the gods will have it, Pavel Francouz will somehow string together the most historic hockey run in history and Edmonton will once again be mocked and ridiculed for scouting the lesser talent and wasting 2.5 million in the process.


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Oiler fans might want to cool it on pumping up Koskinen’s tires. He and Chiasson are UFAs this summer and they may look to strike it rich as this could be their last chances to earn big pay days in their careers. Bobrovsky looks meh this season and there could be lots of teams looking for new starters. In economics, lots of demand and not a lot of supply means $$$.
 

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Oiler fans might want to cool it on pumping up Koskinen’s tires. He and Chiasson are UFAs this summer and they may look to strike it rich as this could be their last chances to earn big pay days in their careers. Bobrovsky looks meh this season and there could be lots of teams looking for new starters. In economics, lots of demand and not a lot of supply means $$$.

Talbot's 4m will be off the books (unless he wants to sign for 1m to be the backup, if things continue as they are), and the cap is going by like 3-4m according to Bettman. We'll be able to pay him 7m per if that's what it takes, and if he proves to be worth it the rest of the season. Every other team either has cap issues or an internal cap/budget, and a couple big name goalies will likely be available like Bobrovsky. If we want to keep him, we'll keep him. So don't worry or lose sleep over it, please.
 

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Michael Hutchinson had an amazing stretch out of nowhere as well.

He (Hutchinson) is not an NHL level goalie.

We will see how long this lasts.
 

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Koskinen is gonna get paid this summer. The sheer number of struggling goaltenders this season coupled with a finite number of UFA goaltenders on the market means Koskinen is going to have many suitors to choose from driving that price up. Not sure the Oilers can afford to pay both him and Chiasson’s raises.

Chaisson will get 2.5M. Koskinen will get 3.5-4M if he keeps his play up. That's 6.5M, plus with contracts from Talbot gone (At this point, you keep either Koskinen or Talbot) and 11M in cap space, that's 15+M in Cap, and that's NOT including the 3.5M extra cap from going from 79.5 to 83M as projected for next year. The leafs are in a lot worse cap trouble than the Oilers.
 

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Michael Hutchinson had an amazing stretch out of nowhere as well.

He (Hutchinson) is not an NHL level goalie.

We will see how long this lasts.

That's a very fair point. Even though he's turning it around lately, Hellebuyck has also looked quite bad at times this year -- many games far worse than even Koskinen's very worst game (and he really hasn't had a stinker, actually, while Helle has had more than a few). Goalies are like some strange voodoo magic. You just never know how any goalie will rise or fall. Who saw Rittich being as good as he's been in Calgary? Will that continue? Is Halak going to keep up this pace, being 2nd in the league in SV%? There's a lot of examples if you look around.

When you have a hot goalie, you take it and enjoy it while it lasts. Koskto has been great. Any negativity coming from sour fans who hate the Oilers is just noise.
 

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That's a very fair point. Even though he's turning it around lately, Hellebuyck has also looked quite bad at times this year -- many games far worse than even Koskinen's very worst game (and he really hasn't had a stinker, actually, while Helle has had more than a few). Goalies are like some strange voodoo magic. You just never know how any goalie will rise or fall. Who saw Rittich being as good as he's been in Calgary? Will that continue? Is Halak going to keep up this pace, being 2nd in the league in SV%? There's a lot of examples if you look around.

When you have a hot goalie, you take it and enjoy it while it lasts. Koskto has been great. Any negativity coming from sour fans who hate the Oilers is just noise.

Every goalie has ups and downs.

I would hold off on the saviour thing while Oiler fans are also ripping Dubnyk in the other thread, and has way more equity in quality play.
 
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Michael Hutchinson had an amazing stretch out of nowhere as well.

He (Hutchinson) is not an NHL level goalie.

We will see how long this lasts.

Atleast Koskinen has record of elite play for years, so in away he hasn't come out of nowhere.
 

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Koskinen has been elite for years in Europe.

The question is can he be elite at the NHL level but he atleast has been elite through his career for years.

Personally, I don't care about being elite in Europe.

Alexandre Giroux tore the AHL apart and did jack in the NHL.
 

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Personally, I don't care about being elite in Europe.

Alexandre Giroux tore the AHL apart and did jack in the NHL.

Well then your team could be missing of some elite talent.

Panarin& Dadonov were okay in Europe and are 1st line players in the NHL.
This doesn't mean Koskinen can be a Vezina winner in the NHL but would be stupid to just ignore Europe.

KHL& AHL are 2 very different leagues.
 

Cellee

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Well then your team could be missing of some elite talent.

Panarin& Dadonov were okay in Europe and are 1st line players in the NHL.
This doesn't mean Koskinen can be a Vezina winner in the NHL but would be stupid to just ignore Europe.

KHL& AHL are 2 very different leagues.

We are really saying the same thing, you just seem more willing to put stock into success in other leagues.

That's fine.
 

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We are really saying the same thing, you just seem more willing to put stock into success in other leagues.

That's fine.

Being elite in KHL for years/some time yes, other leagues no.
 

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Chaisson will get 2.5M. Koskinen will get 3.5-4M if he keeps his play up. That's 6.5M, plus with contracts from Talbot gone (At this point, you keep either Koskinen or Talbot) and 11M in cap space, that's 15+M in Cap, and that's NOT including the 3.5M extra cap from going from 79.5 to 83M as projected for next year. The leafs are in a lot worse cap trouble than the Oilers.
The difference between Toronto's and Edmonton's situations are that Toronto has far more depth and less bad contracts. The Oilers are a cap team with 2 stars and little behind them.

Toronto is where Edmonton wants to be depth-wise, but disastrous asset management has left Edmonton with $15m to use to try and plug about 8 holes in the lineup. In order to be a contender, Edmonton needs a top 4 puck moving defenceman and 3 top 6 forwards.

Toronto has everyone minus a defenceman. We just have to worry about re-signing everyone. This is a good problem to have for Toronto. Too many good players, while Edmonton has too many poor contracts.
 

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Hey look....another post about the Oilers on the main board. Nobody cares. Take it to the Oilers forum.

I think a 30-year-old rookie backup being 2nd in the league in GAA and 3rd in SV% is pretty remarkable, even if there's still a good chance that he won't survive a full season as a Vezina candidate.
 
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The difference between Toronto's and Edmonton's situations are that Toronto has far more depth and less bad contracts. The Oilers are a cap team with 2 stars and little behind them.

Toronto is where Edmonton wants to be depth-wise, but disastrous asset management has left Edmonton with $15m to use to try and plug about 8 holes in the lineup. In order to be a contender, Edmonton needs a top 4 puck moving defenceman and 3 top 6 forwards.

Toronto has everyone minus a defenceman. We just have to worry about re-signing everyone. This is a good problem to have for Toronto. Too many good players, while Edmonton has too many poor contracts.
Can you refrain from turning this into a Toronto pissing contest? Stay on topic.
 

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The difference between Toronto's and Edmonton's situations are that Toronto has far more depth and less bad contracts. The Oilers are a cap team with 2 stars and little behind them.

Toronto is where Edmonton wants to be depth-wise, but disastrous asset management has left Edmonton with $15m to use to try and plug about 8 holes in the lineup. In order to be a contender, Edmonton needs a top 4 puck moving defenceman and 3 top 6 forwards.

Toronto has everyone minus a defenceman. We just have to worry about re-signing everyone. This is a good problem to have for Toronto. Too many good players, while Edmonton has too many poor contracts.

:facepalm: And we need to know Toronto's cap problems in a thread about Koskinen because....?
 

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