Trade: [HOU/SEA] Jadeveon Clowney for 2020 3rd round pick, Barkevious Mingo, and Jacob Martin

[sigma six]

Clowney had all the leverage.

Yep. If a left tackle was priority #1 for Houston, Seattle is the last team they would trade with since Duane Brown came from the Texans as well.

I hope an extension with term is possible but I like this a lot because Clowney is still pretty young, and we didn't give up much. Jacob Martin is a decent rotational guy but this is so worth it.

 

[Avs_19]

Hell of a trade for the Seahawks that's well worth it even if he walks next year. It all looks even better when you add the Clark trade into the mix.

Whoever is running the Texans now (O'Brien?) screwed this all up in a big way. Lost all leverage and gave a very good player away.

 

[Asymmetric Solution]

Steal for Clowney. Houston got fleeced.

 

[EpochLink]

I still can’t believe what Houston did, like...what the hell?

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

What pass rush outside of Watt do Texans have now?

Mercilus hasn't been same player he was pre-injury and nothing on there roster jumps out at me as impact player on D outside of Watt

If Watt gets injured they are completely screwed on defense

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Someone explain to me how with a franchise QB on a rookie deal, the Texans couldn't keep Brown or Clowney.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

 

[Blitzkrug]

I guess that offer they made Miami really was them being desperate.

Traded one of the best run stoppers in the league, you got no LT for him, and a bunch of spare parts. Should also be noted the Hawks get that 3rd back if Clowney leaves.

Brutal trade.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Someone explain to me how with a franchise QB on a rookie deal, the Texans couldn't keep Brown or Clowney.

Brown was offended over Bob McNair's racism if memory serves and wouldn't stay regardless of what they offered him.

Clowney though...yeah, got me there/

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Brown was offended over Bob McNair's racism if memory serves and wouldn't stay regardless of what they offered him.

Clowney though...yeah, got me there/

Not true

He wanted a new contract but Texans refused to renegotiate with him

Texans' Duane Brown absent due to contract dispute

 

[sigma six]

I'd guess if Houston had just tagged him as a DE instead none of this happens.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

I don't understand most of what Texans have been doing

Including drafting Fuller with that 1st round pick

 

[CraigBillington]

What the heck is a Barkevious?

 

[Blitzkrug]

What the heck is a Barkevious?

Former Browns first round pick that may as well be a bust.

 

[StreetHawk]

Someone explain to me how with a franchise QB on a rookie deal, the Texans couldn't keep Brown or Clowney.

Didn’t want to. Some teams hate to redo a contract because it sets a precedent for other players.
For Clowney, they picked up the 5th year option and now they tag him for another season. So, he doesn’t want to be part of an organization that does not want him there for the long term. 5 years is plenty of time to decide if you value the player or not.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Former Browns first round pick that may as well be a bust.

He is a bust

Last year was only time he has been starter since his early years with Browns and that was simply because of how bad the Seahawks LB depth was

He has done very little to justify that 6th overall selection

 

[EpochLink]

Former Browns first round pick that may as well be a bust.

Apparently he was going to be cut today, so Seattle threw him in the trade.

 

[Josepho]

Any talk of the Texans getting someone like Tunsil was always ridiculous given the contract situation and leverage that Clowney have.

I have a tough time considering this a good haul for Houston but in a vaccuum it's not horribly abnormal for someone on the last year of their contract to be dealt for this sort of thing.

 

[Halladay]

Someone explain to me how with a franchise QB on a rookie deal, the Texans couldn't keep Brown or Clowney.

Cause JD doesn't work as hard as JJ (no one really does though). That is why he just got traded.

 

[Blitzkrug]

So to break it down;

A pro bowl DL/Linebacker for;

A 3rd round pick the team trading for him gets back if he doesn't re-sign
A former 1st round pick of a linebacker who's done nothing and was gonna get cut at the roster deadline anyway
Some other back up linebacker who probably turns into nothing.

O'Brien should be fired for that. Absolutely horrible.

 

[StreetHawk]

So to break it down;

A pro bowl DL/Linebacker for;

A 3rd round pick the team trading for him gets back if he doesn't re-sign
A former 1st round pick of a linebacker who's done nothing and was gonna get cut at the roster deadline anyway
Some other back up linebacker who probably turns into nothing.

O'Brien should be fired for that. Absolutely horrible.

JD was not under contract. He can’t be dealt until he signed the franchise tender. Houston had zero leverage to send him wherever they wanted to. He could simply not sign the tender and wait it out until week 8/9 the latest he can sign to have the year count towards free agency.

Their relationship ended much like Bell’s did with Pitt did. After 5 seasons, if you’re not prepared to extend the guy long term you might as well walk away.

Better to use that designated cap space that you had ear marked for JD’s franchise tender in free agency.

See the difference in return between JD and Clark who Seattle traded for a 1st after tagging him, allowing him to sign long term with KC.

Guys simply are no longer willing to put their bodies on the line for a team that isn’t investing in them long term.

 

[mouser]

I can't blame Houston for not wanting to pay the price for Clowney. Someone is going to pay him $20m+ av on a 5-6 year deal and there's some valid skepticism he isn't in that tier of players.

 

[BKIslandersFan]

If Browns prove their worth this season... are Texans the new Browns?

 

[YoSoyLalo]

Can’t make realistic trades in Madden anyway, the game thinks guys like Clowney are worth 3 firsts. When, in reality, he’s had for a 3rd and some backups.

 

[LT]

Texans' FO (or whatever the hell it is) needs to go. All of them.