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Nathan Horton will have an MRI today on his left shoulder and may not play again this season, reports the Palm Beach Post.
He will likely have surgery in the next two weeks to repair his torn rotator cuff. With 4-6 months of rehabilitation required, Horton will need to have the surgery soon if he is to be healthy for the begining of next season's training camp.
 

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I though he was out earlier in the season and had an injury in the OHL too...
edit: I'm saying the term injury prone 1/2 jokingly anyway, but he does have quite an injury resume and still a teenager.
 

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This isn't Horton's first "season ending" injury this year. He just got back from a knee injury if I remember correctly. Now it's his shoulder. This is definanlty cause for concern, especially in a budding powerforward like he's supposed to be.
 

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He never had to deal with this kind of phsyical play, he's only 18, and with his style I'm not surprised this happened. He has along time now to get healthy durring the summer and get stronger. If Horton gets hurt like this for the next 2 years, Injurey prone can be thrown out, but saying a teen age powerforward is a injurey prone player now is not a concrete statement yet IMO.
 

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X-SHARKIE said:
He never had to deal with this kind of phsyical play, he's only 18, and with his style I'm not surprised this happened. He has along time now to get healthy durring the summer and get stronger. If Horton gets hurt like this for the next 2 years, Injurey prone can be thrown out, but saying a teen age powerforward is a injurey prone player now is not a concrete statement yet IMO.

I can see your logic, but I don't agree. Smart players adjust their game to the situation they play in to minimize the damage on their body if they're not able to sustain that type of play when they make the jump to the next level. Rick Nash had to do it. He played a much more physical game with London than he did in his first year with Columbus. Now, he's gaining strength and that physical bite of his game is coming back.

The fact is, if Nathan Horton doesn't adjust his game he's going to continue to get hurt like this in freak accident plays. It makes very little how you get injured if you get injured. Horton has had two incidents this season already, it's likely not a coincidence. If you're too injured to work out and gain strength, you're going to see the same Nathan Horton come back next year just a season older with the same mentality and same strength. While it's too early for the injury prone label, two potential season ending injuries in the same year is certainly cause for concern when your game revolves around the more physical aspects of the game. Pre-concussion and Post-concussion Lindros comes to mind. If you take that aspect from Horton, you're not going to have the same player.
 

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Wow, have you guys even seen the guy play this year? His first injury was a horrible misfortune as he and Sopel slid into the boards. He was supposed to have his shoulder operated on and miss the whole season. According to the doctor he had "superhuman gains in strength and motion" so he rehabbed and managed to make it back this season. The man is a beast for being able to play through something like that. This injury is a result of not enough time for the injury to heal properly. Horton is by no means injury prone and has adapted to the NHL game wonderfully. If he played this whole season, he would have scored 25 goals which is not too bad for a rookie.
 

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Caniacforever said:
The fact is, if Nathan Horton doesn't adjust his game he's going to continue to get hurt like this in freak accident plays. It makes very little how you get injured if you get injured. Horton has had two incidents this season already, it's likely not a coincidence. If you're too injured to work out and gain strength, you're going to see the same Nathan Horton come back next year just a season older with the same mentality and same strength. While it's too early for the injury prone label, two potential season ending injuries in the same year is certainly cause for concern when your game revolves around the more physical aspects of the game. Pre-concussion and Post-concussion Lindros comes to mind. If you take that aspect from Horton, you're not going to have the same player.

Wow, you never saw the injury did you? In reality, it is just one injury which certainly couldn't have been prevented. I know you like and favor Staal, but to blame the injury on Horton is absurd.
 

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Caniacforever said:
This isn't Horton's first "season ending" injury this year. He just got back from a knee injury if I remember correctly. Now it's his shoulder. This is definanlty cause for concern, especially in a budding powerforward like he's supposed to be.

He never injured his knee. It was a torn rotator cuff from the start. He was supposed to originally have the surgery, but upon further review the doctor felt it wasn't necessary or could be delayed. Panther fans would probably know more details then I do. As it turns out, perhaps they should have had the surgery done from the get go.
 

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luongofan said:
Wow, have you guys even seen the guy play this year? His first injury was a horrible misfortune as he and Sopel slid into the boards. He was supposed to have his shoulder operated on and miss the whole season. According to the doctor he had "superhuman gains in strength and motion" so he rehabbed and managed to make it back this season. The man is a beast for being able to play through something like that. This injury is a result of not enough time for the injury to heal properly. Horton is by no means injury prone and has adapted to the NHL game wonderfully. If he played this whole season, he would have scored 25 goals which is not too bad for a rookie.


Exactly what i think, is comeback was a miracle (not to mention it was a stupid move by the organisation) the kid should have just forget the season and think about the future. Fortunately for him with the coming lockout he wil get back to 100% and work hard to get bigger if he wants to be a power foward in this league.
 

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luongofan said:
Wow, you never saw the injury did you? In reality, it is just one injury which certainly couldn't have been prevented. I know you like and favor Staal, but to blame the injury on Horton is absurd.

Actually, I was really hoping Carolina would go Horton around draft time. Staal wasn't my first choice, but he has worked out well for us. It's nothing to do with the fact that i'm biased against Horton, it's just that i've seen the trajectory that other powerforwards have risen and a lot of it had to do with body maturation and strength conditioning, which is highly underrated. If Horton isn't able to work on his strength training as far as upper body goes, he's going to have problems with the progression of his game. 6-8 months in the grand scheme may not seem like that big of a deal, but it's a crucial juncture in Horton's career.

Not saying that Horton is injury prone, but if you look at players like Palfy, Straka, Bure, and Lindros you'll see that it isn't always the big hits and obvious incidents that cause them the most problems. Injury prone players are just players who appear to be in the wrong place at the wrong time all the time, like Horton has looked in his early career.
 

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Caniacforever said:
Injury prone players are just players who appear to be in the wrong place at the wrong time all the time, like Horton has looked in his early career.

Nothing against you Caniacforever, but it was never of Horton's fault with his injury... He was caught on a bad play with Brent Sopel and even Todd Bertuzzi could have been caught in this bad play and been injured !

The kid was hurt, he wanted to play and asked for the opportunity to pass on the operation and he came back played at a great level but wasn't able to be comfortable enough to stay in the lineup so he goes on to get the operation !
 

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This injury that has ultimately ended his season is the same rotator cuff injury he has tried to play through. He was supposed to have surgery after the injury, but chose to delay the surgery till after the season in an attempt to get back in the line up this year. I don't know if any of you have ever injured your rotator cuff in this way but this is a very painful injury, the fact that the kid came back without surgery is remarkable. With Florida out of the playoff hunt and the pain associated with every hit he throws and takes, I think the Panthers just decided to get it done now.

To say the kid is injury prone I think is harsh, his only other injury was the broken jaw in junior. Once the shoulder is operated on, I think he will be fine - what a freak accident to begin with - too bad, with a full season he could of been rookie of the year. I can't wait to see this kid next year, Florida has in him the league's next true skilled power forward.
 

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littleHossa said:
I though he was out earlier in the season and had an injury in the OHL too...
edit: I'm saying the term injury prone 1/2 jokingly anyway, but he does have quite an injury resume and still a teenager.
in the OHL he had a broken jaw... which even people who aren't injury prone can't prevent. take a puck or stick to the face and its bound to happen!

Dave D Great post!!!
 

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Vincent_TheGreat said:
Porn its his second shoulder injury this year and 3rd in the past 2 years.

Again, VTG just to be clear, the thing to understand with Horton is that this is one injured shoulder in which surgery was inevitable. This is not one shoulder injured twice, the torn rotator cuff wouldn't heal with just rehab it won't be 100% until after surgery. He postponed the surgery at the time to see if he could get back in and finish the year - 70% at best with lots of pain to get by the season - with Florida now out of the playoff race they pulled him from the line-up because of the pain he is going through and sent him to surgery early.
 

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Vincent_TheGreat said:
Porn its his second shoulder injury this year and 3rd in the past 2 years.

No actually it is the same shoulder injury. He hurt it, came back through rehab, now is going to have surgery on it (which he should of done in the 1st place)

This thread is ridiculous really.
 

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Porn* said:
in the OHL he had a broken jaw... which even people who aren't injury prone can't prevent. take a puck or stick to the face and its bound to happen!

Dave D Great post!!!

Uhh, he got his jaw broken in a fight. We arn't talking about Sundin or Roenick here.

That being said, to label him injury prone at this stage of his career is jumping the gun bigtime.
 

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wasn't it Anthony Stewart who cleaned his clock in that tussle?
And Anthony was in the pressbox at the game tonite so expect to see him signed to a tryout contract probably tomorrow so he can play the last few games. :yo:
 
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