Honest question, why are many 30+ Defensemen struggling

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  1. Henkka

    Henkka Registered User

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    Yep.

    Exceptional season is one reason.
     
    Henkka, Feb 23, 2021 at 12:35 PM
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    Bah. At 30, I found that I could drink, even more gin....
     
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    BrockLobster In Lou I Trust

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    Probably because theyre 30+
     
    BrockLobster, Feb 23, 2021 at 12:46 PM
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    Honest question, why are most defenseman not as good as these 10 Hall of Famers?
     
    MoistDadBod, Feb 23, 2021 at 12:53 PM
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    Leafs87 Mr. Steal Your Job

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    A lot of these guys grew up playing a different game and developed to play a different game. Many had to alter their ways with the changes in recent years. Some did it well, while others didn’t
     
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    I never really felt a decline until my late 30s. I play d most of my life and, although other things disappeared, my skating never started declining until I was well into my 40s. I was still fine with 20 year-olds a few years removed from juniors at that point.

    NHL physicality is a different animal. I also think the focus that they have to bring every day is a big part of it.
     
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    I also think these Covid lay-offs and protocols are affecting some veteran players, both d-men and forwards, more than the younger guys.
     
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    Last year's 3 Norris nominees are 30 or 31 today. Carlsson, Josi and Hedman.
     
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    Never heard of her
     
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    The NHL has eliminated the pylons from rosters, in particular from the youth -> NHLer pipeline, and now all dmen can play the puck, especially inside their own zone. Some of the 30+ guys with puck skills could play until 40 because they had rare-ish skillsets, but that's no longer the case, especially on the margins.

    I also do think it's a case of two of the most high profile 30ish dmen falling off due to injury (Subban/Karlsson) and extrapolating a trend from that. Weber can still play, Giordano had a norris season at 35, it's not like 30 is the end of the road for every dman.
     
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    Nsjohnson In Kevin Fiala's Name we pray.

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    All of us 30 somethings here (or older) are raising our hands slowly going 'well when you're our age...' lol
     
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    Because that’s when players decline.
     
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    i would speculate that harder shots propelled by graphite stix are shortening guys careers because theyre taking on alot more damage
     
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    Some of those worthless bottom sixes had players that could be and were used to shut down top lines. The fourth lines hardly did anything but beat the crap out of each other. The 'skilled' third line players don't mean a lot and no not one fourth line in the NHL would be close to a first line in the 90's
     
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