Line Combos: Hoglander to the top line, Miller demoted to 3rd line

[logan5]

It will be very interesting to see Hoglander on Pettersson's line for a full game (assuming that's the plan). Pettersson is very capable of taking advantage of the pucks Hoglander shakes loose, and is a better sniper than Horvat. Boeser is a huge upgrade from Pearson, so we could see a big night from Hoglander tomorrow night - 1 G 2 A.

 

[HockeyWooot]

Considering the shitshow that is the Canucks. I think they should be playing Juolevi full-time just for development reasons. There is very little reason to keep him out of the lineup.
I understand he's being sheltered and that it might hurt the team but it's not like he's been a liability according to his possession stats. He's pretty good at making a first pass and has been rather physical.

Agreed absolutely. With a rookie, you’ve got to expect growing pains. He’s played better than his limited minutes seem to warrant, where he’s played 18+ TOI he’s looked pretty good doing it.

I think he’s been on pace for that through two periods in many games, but TG shortens the bench in the third.

We need OJ48 to be part of an Edler succession plan, I don’t think he’ll develop as well without playing more minutes.

 

[HockeyWooot]

It’s about time Miller gets demoted. On the topic of third line, I’ve always wondered if he could be a potential solution to our 3C problem?

 

[lawrence]

Considering the shitshow that is the Canucks. I think they should be playing Juolevi full-time just for development reasons. There is very little reason to keep him out of the lineup.
I understand he's being sheltered and that it might hurt the team but it's not like he's been a liability according to his possession stats. He's pretty good at making a first pass and has been rather physical.

100 percent ! Juolevi should a regular right now.

 

[VanJack]

It’s about time Miller gets demoted. On the topic of third line, I’ve always wondered if he could be a potential solution to our 3C problem?

You know, I've wondered about this myself....if you loaded up a third line of Miller, Gaudette and Virtanen, there's at least a chance they might be able to score more than a goal a month.

The problem right now, is that once you get past the top-six, the rest of the roster is a black hole offensively. Canucks are too easy to match up against. If they could ever stumble upon a third line that could actually score, it might open things up considerably.

 

[vanuck]

Juolevi should be alongside Myers over Benn.

I'll admit I'm surprised Green didn't just swap Hoglander and Miller in the top 6 and call it a day.

But... why the **** would you not put Miller at center if you're going to demote him to the 3rd line anyway?

 

[vanuck]

If you could trade Miller for an A1 Prospect would you do it? It's looking like realistically the Canucks are 2 years away from competing.

Yes. Especially considering how long it'll likely take for us to get to contention.

But preferably a blue chip D prospect.

 

[NoRaise4Brackett]

This is just Green looking for another way to get Sutter and Beagle more minutes.

 

[DS7]

Juolevi should be alongside Myers over Benn.

I'll admit I'm surprised Green didn't just swap Hoglander and Miller in the top 6 and call it a day.

But... why the **** would you not put Miller at center if you're going to demote him to the 3rd line anyway?

Because Green sees Sutter and his whopping 0 assists on the season as better 3C material

 

[David71]

According to Green, "he hasn't managed Miller's ice-time enough, and he's playing tired".....hence some of the mental mistakes.

But if he's 'tired now', trying to generate any offense with Roussel and Gaudette will bring him to the brink of exhaustion. It's more like purgatory than a respite.

because tyler motte is injured. nobody else plays Pk mins.

 

[Canucks1096]

People are so focus on what line a player should be on. I don't think it's anything about promoted or demoted a player. It's about spreading out the scoring to make the Canucks harder to play against. Good teams have top players on the third line. Pits had Kessel on the third line at times. Williams won a smythe on the third line. Hawks had sharp on third line at times. Same with Perry and Rakell for the Ducks.

Miller on the third line will still end up with more ice time than Virtanen and Hoglander.

 

[Johnny Canucker]

Not sure if this was sarcastic or not, but if it's honest, that's a garbage take.

100% serious. Line combos mean less than you think. If you’re a garbage player you’re a garbage player on any line. This is a personelle issue, not a placement of said personelle issue.

 

[Johnny Canucker]

I know Motte is out, but methinks if he's healthy he gets the nod for the 2nd line job.

Also doesn't feel like Juolevi deserves to be the odd man out on D either.

If we are going on merit alone and not potential, tenure, contract etc

the D that should sit in order are

Myers
Edler
Benn
Hughes

 

[Johnny Canucker]

Miller's days here are numbered

Looks like it. That trade isn’t looking so hot anymore.

 

[Johnny Canucker]

Absolutely. Love to move Miller for a 22 year old top four D. Think the Flyers would give up their young Myers?

so like the type of player you would draft with a 1st round pick?

 

[Get North]

I assumed Miller needed to be pleased when he got here so he got immediate minutes with our best offensive forwards. If he's on the 3rd line, it should be at centre.

 

[December5th]

i dont think miller started on the first line when he got here. ferland was promised to play with petterson and boesser

 

[HockeyWooot]

People are so focus on what line a player should be on. I don't think it's anything about promoted or demoted a player. It's about spreading out the scoring to make the Canucks harder to play against. Good teams have top players on the third line. Pits had Kessel on the third line at times. Williams won a smythe on the third line. Hawks had sharp on third line at times. Same with Perry and Rakell for the Ducks.

Miller on the third line will still end up with more ice time than Virtanen and Hoglander.

Absolutely, rather than a demotion it should seen as an opportunity to carry and run his own line and ultimately give the team better success.

 

[MS]

Absolutely. Love to move Miller for a 22 year old top four D. Think the Flyers would give up their young Myers?

Myers is one of my favourite young players and that would be a deal I'd have to think long and hard about. Guy is a stud getting under-utilized in Philly.

 

[MS]

because tyler motte is injured. nobody else plays Pk mins.

This would be less of an issue if Travis Green didn't believe that players under 25 might turn into pumpkins if they killed penalties.

 

[Fatass]

This would be less of an issue if Travis Green didn't believe that players under 25 might turn into pumpkins if they killed penalties.

Jake, as low iq as he is, should be on the PK. He’s big and extremely fast. He can limit time and space, which our old slow guys just can’t do.

 

[MS]

Jake, as low iq as he is, should be on the PK. He’s big and extremely fast. He can limit time and space, which our old slow guys just can’t do.

Yup. He's actually generated pretty good results there in small sample sizes in the past, too.

But Green just doesn't think the game that way. Only hard-working scrappy veterans may PK.

 

[Josepho]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think AV was a huge fan of Miller.

 

[Vector]

Virtanen should be what Sutter was before he became completely broken. Big, strong, fast, with individual skills. Perfect 3rd line winger. Simplify the game as your typical North-South create havoc and score off the rush-type. Gets primary PK time and the odd PP shift as a reward for the hard work elsewhere. It’s an easy message to convey and sell to the kid. This group never will.

 

[Chimpradamus]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think AV was a huge fan of Miller.

No he wasn't. Miller was basically a 3rd liner in New York. Tortorella also had him as a 3rd liner.