Hodgson or Kadri

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  1. HockeyGuruPitka

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    This thread is meant for those that are not leaf or nucks fans.. of course all are welcome.. Ive watched both players over the past couple of years, both have had similar journeys to the place they are currently at in their careers, obviously Hodgson has had to deal with injury problems as Kadri hasnt.. However hes got an extra year on Kadri. With where they are at currently in their development which would you want on your team, both very good yet unproven center prospects.. with very uncertain futures in the NHL...
     
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    hard to say, havent paid much attention to them lately, kadri had a brief stint in the nhl, games i saw him he was a ghost, ppg in the ahl, hogdson not so much, but he's had injuries.

    i think cody has a higher peak, specifically because he seemed more of an impact guy when he was on the wjc, compared to kadri when he ws on the wjc.

    however cody looks like he could potentially be a big bandaid. so i think it would be safer seeing kadri reach his peak.
     
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    Was at the Marlies vs Moose Match today

    Both did not have great games, but Hodgson by a nose. Skill wise i would say Kadri has a bit more, But Hodgson's Vision is just too good to pass on
     
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    I think they will both bust. I see striking similarities between those two and players in the Calgary Flames Young Gun days. Kadri = Rico Fata, Hodgson = Daniel Tkaczuk

    One just sucked, the other had injuries derail his career.

    (yes, I know Tkaczuk had a concussion, and Hodgson with back injuries, but both are extremely hard to recover from when those players are young)
     
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    I dunno, I just feel that Kadri would be better suited on the wing. Hodgson might be more successful (in the short term) simply because of the team he plays for. I really haven't liked how Burke/Wilson have treated Kadri, I've never seen a young player get criticized so much.

    I think there's just more upside with Kadri. His playmaking is already pretty good. When the Leafs were on their slump, they called him up in the game against Vancouver and that was their best performance in a while, they lost the game but it helped get them out of the slump and Kadri got Versteeg/Kulemin goin who he played with on that game. Then they demoted his position after he wasn't too successful with Kessel. I don't think he's gonna be successful as that centre for Kessel, I would've liked to see him get top 6 minutes this year on the second line. Why not have him there instead of Crabb and put Crabb on the 3rd?

    With Hodgson, I just feel that injuries hampered him and obviously, he's been hyped a disproportionate amount because he's on Vancouver, they're both gonna be under the microscope though and Kadri might have more pressure on him.
     
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    You're definitely going to get a few Leaf fans in here citing Hodgson's less than steller stats in the AHL so far.

    Personally, i think they are both in the same situation being in the AHL. I would like to see where they are both at in about a years time, because right now it's pretty difficult to judge. I think both have the chance to be great players in the NHL.
     
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    Ill keep kadri
     
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    Are you serious?
     
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    Kadri is better compared with Jordan Shroeder.
     
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    I'd go with Hodgson as a slight edge for the following brief reasons:

    - Hodgson hangs around more elite company: Like Stamkos, Tavares.
    - His workouts are in-tense.
    - His work-ethic is constantly praised and in the long term work ethic is what your career really depends on.
    - In a better environment. Canucks are sorted out contenders with cap specialists, depth, sleep doctors etc.,. Toronto is rebuilding and in denial about it, that puts more pressure on the younger stars and in general Kadri will be surrounded with less talent and depth to take the load off.

    That's all.
     
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    He is a bust. Mark my words. I guarantee it. He is not very good defensively, has no slap shot, like actually none what so ever.

    The only thing he has got is great hands and somewhat good vision. Bad pick by Burke at 7th overall. Could have done alot better
     
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    Leafs Fan says: Kadri

    Canucks Fan says: Hodgson

    Other Fan says: Who cares; joke about the leafs

    /thread
     
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    An injured Hodgson is as good if not better than a healthy Kadri.:sarcasm:

    But seriously, I honestly don't like either.
     
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    let's see....

    2010-11 (AHL)
    Cody Hodgson 27GP - 10G - 6A - 16P
    Nazem Kadri: 23GP - 8G - 16A - 24P

    Plus, Hodgson has had major injury issues.
    Plus, Hodgson has a year on Kadri.

    If you asked me two years ago, I would say Hodgon would've had the edge. Right now, Kadri is the better prospect, hands down.
     
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    There's a couple of different factors at work here...

    In terms of offensive upside, Kadri definitely has a lot more of it. The guy's playmaking ability is off the charts whereas Hodgson is more of a complete player.

    Going off that, to be an NHL player, you need to be a relatively complete player who is mentally strong enough to play in the NHL, and that is a department where Nazem Kadri is definitely questionable whil Hodgson has those aspects of his game down pat.

    The main thing that Hodgson has going for him, is that even with the injuries, he's the type of player who can play on the 3rd or 4th line for a couple of years and if he stays healthy, work his way up. With Kadri, he's either gotta be near the top of your lineup or not on your team.

    At this point, I think that Kadri has to have more value, simlpy because his chances of being a top flight NHL player are so much greater than Hodgson's.
     
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    If Hodgson was healthy I would say he was better.
     
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    Kadri will fix in a more starring role with Toronto.
     
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    As a Leafs fan I am a big fan of Hodgson.

    However, in the case of a thread like this, the best answer is "both are good prospects", because everyone knows how this will end up:

    40% Leafs fans - pick Kadri
    40% Canucks fans - pick Hodgson
    10% Leafs haters - pick Hodgson
    10% Posters with unbiased opinions
     
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    I think it's supposed to be some sort of condescending slight at Kadri that implies he's not in Cody Hodgson's league, which is funny because Hodgson has done nothing in the past two years that even remotely suggests he's better than Kadri. I'd rather have Kadri than Hodgson or Schroeder.
     
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    In otherwords if Hodgson doesn't realize his potential he can still be a Manny Malholtra, while Kadri has greater offensive upside but is top 6 or bust. That's probably pretty fair.

    But as far as fan reception & hype goes, the prospects who Kadri remind me of from Vancouver is the late Luc Bourdon. Having a large fanbase. Both came to a a hockey mad city that was starved for good high impact prospects so we hype the hell out of them, but neither were the best among their peers and probably just a notch below where the fans want/hope/believe them to be.
     
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    Kadri outproduces Hodgson one year, and he's the "Hands down better prospect" Oh lord typical HF way "What have you done for me lately" Hodgson also brings intangibles to the table. I'd rather have the player who scores more goals, is a fantastic two-way player and is also a great leader.
     
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    Also attended the Marlies vs. Moose game tonight. Thought Kadri made some boneheaded passes to the opposition on the PP (multiple times). He does play with an edge, but falls on ass when trying to play bigger than he is. He created next to nothing offensively. Don't see him being an NHL regular any time soon.

    Hodgson is sloooow (poor acceleration, wide awkward stride) and look much smaller than stats says he is. He was a step behind the play which led to some scoring chances against, but offensively did manage to get off two tricky shots on the right side on the rush and had his stick lifted near the crease for an almost goal. Didn't win too many faceoffs and he's quite weak on the puck. Would it be wrong to compare him to Robbie Schremp at 20 in the AHL?

    FYI - I've seen both play before.

    If I had to choose? Hodgson. Even if you suck at skating, are weak on the puck, and slow enough to be a defensive liability - you can carve out a career in the NHL if you have elite hockey vision.
     
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    injuries; drafted a year earlier. why do you keep ignoring this. let it go
     
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