Hockey's Future Top 50 prospects Spring 2007: 11-25

[Hunter Gathers]

It's alright. That can be your Miracle 2.

We'll try to soldier on with our 3 in a row.

Wow, what an insult! What a jab! Impressive!

 

[xander]

Al Montoya never won a WJHC MVP.

you are correct, somewhere along the line I forgot that it was Parise and not Montoya that got the honor. However, Monty was spectacular in that turnament and was named to the all turnament team and got the award for top goalie.

 

[Shabutie]

I just find it pathetic that Canadians will never, ever give the US credit for winning that game. Instead, it was their goalie who lost it for them.

Just unreal!

Who else can you blame it on? It certainly wasn't a win for USA, we had outplayed them the entire game. M-A Fleury comes out of his net tried to play the puck, hits a player, goes in the net.

It was the worst goal I've ever seen in my life.

If this was Lundqvist in the stanley cup finals game 7, you'd think the same.

 

[Jeffrey]

but montoya has also been a WJC mvp.

montoya won WJC goalie of the tournament not the MVP..

im pretty sure zach parise won the MVP !

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

That's fine and dandy, but by placing him in the top 10, they are making a statement that he is better than Marc Staal (#13 on the list), and I honestly don't think that situation resembles anything close to reality.

I'd have Staal ahead of Parent too, but if Parent were #9 and Staal was #13, it wouldn't be near the travesty that Staal at #13 and Parent at #NR would be.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Wow, what an insult! What a jab! Impressive!

Chillax Yank. I'm just buggin.

 

[xander]

montoya won WJC goalie of the tournament not the MVP..

im pretty sure zach parise won the MVP !

you are right, I made the mistake.

So Price won a WJC MVP and Montoya won a WJC best goalie award. Not a huge differance. In both cases they where awarded for being the best netminder.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Who else can you blame it on? It certainly wasn't a win for USA, we had outplayed them the entire game. M-A Fleury comes out of his net tried to play the puck, hits a player, goes in the net.

I guess we'll just give back our gold medals since we didn't win the game.

 

[Shabutie]

you are right, I made the mistake.

So Price won a WJC MVP and Montoya won a WJC best goalie award. Not a huge differance. In both cases they where awarded for being the best netminder.

Hmm no. Price won WJC best player MVP, WJC best goalie award.

 

[Jeffrey]

you are correct, somewhere along the line I forgot that it was Parise and not Montoya that got the honor. However, Monty was spectacular in that turnament and was named to the all turnament team and got the award for top goalie.

so exactly what i've said , price has a WJC MVP that montoya doesnt have ...
so that make 1 argument for price over montoya !

im not nitpicking you btw ...
it was for the guy that said that price has nothing on montoya !

Montoya should be ahead of Price.

Price plays with little boys
Montoya plays with Men with far superior talent.

Most importantly Montoya has better numbers than Price.

There is not 1 reason why Price should be higher than Montoya... not 1.

The list just sucks in general thou. Not impressed at all.

this guy

 

[Mess]

Someone should pull up the 2000, 2001 HF Top 50 rankings...

Good Idea

I am still trying to find Kyle Wellwood ever appear on a HF prospect list ..

I think he must be in the top 10 this year ..

 

[Hunter Gathers]

so exactly what i've said , price has a WJC MVP that montoya doesnt have ...
so that make 1 argument for price over montoya !

Haha, yeah obviously it means that Price is 15x the goaltender that Montoya is.

Put it in the books!

 

[Shabutie]

I guess we'll just give back our gold medals since we didn't win the game.

You can keep 'em we have plenty. I was just saying...you can't credit USA for dominating Canada, nor can you blame Canada for not playing well enough.

It was the stupidest play in WJC history as far as I'm concerned.

 

[xander]

so exactly what i've said , price has a WJC MVP that montoya doesnt have ...
so that make 1 argument for price over montoya !

im not nitpicking you btw ...
it was for the guy that said that price has nothing on montoya !

alright, I'll give you that. It's a very small differance, but technically you are correct.

 

[Jeffrey]

Haha, yeah obviously it means that Price is 15x the goaltender that Montoya is.

Put it in the books!

It was for this guy and nothing on montoya for god sake !

Montoya should be ahead of Price.

Price plays with little boys
Montoya plays with Men with far superior talent.

Most importantly Montoya has better numbers than Price.

There is not 1 reason why Price should be higher than Montoya... not 1.

The list just sucks in general thou. Not impressed at all.

AGAIN I REPEAT: MONTOYA DESERVES HIS RANKING , I JUST BELIEVE THAT PRICE IS ON PAR WITH MONTOYA !!!

 

[Le Golie]

I just find it pathetic that Canadians will never, ever give the US credit for winning that game. Instead, it was their goalie who lost it for them.

Just unreal!

What do you expect? You can't define a choke job better than that game. A two goal lead heading into the third period and the goalie scores on himself with five minutes left? The saying 'They didn't win, we lost' was invented to describe games like that.

Don't hold your breath waiting for people to credit the Americans for winning that game, it's one of the most legendary chokes in Canadian Hockey history and it will always be that way.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

What do you expect? You can't define a choke job better than that game. A two goal lead heading into the third period and the goalie scores on himself with five minutes left? The saying 'They didn't win, we lost' was invented to describe games like that.

Don't hold your breath waiting for people to credit the Americans for winning that game, it's one of the most legendary chokes in Canadian Hockey history and it will always be that way.

All I hear from you guys is cry cry cry! Your team didn't suck it up and play harder despite Fleury. You guys lost the game and we won. Bottom line.

I mean, Christ. This is what pisses off US fans time after time again. The pathetic inability of Canadians to give credit when credit is due. And I mean pathetic in every way possible.

 

[Jeffrey]

All I hear from you guys is cry cry cry! Your team didn't suck it up and play harder despite Fleury. You guys lost the game and we won. Bottom line.

I mean, Christ. This is what pisses off US fans time after time again. The pathetic inability of Canadians to give credit when credit is due. And I mean pathetic in every way possible.

dont worry you won and got the medal ...

the only thing that bother canadian is that this team was highly touted as one of the best canadian team ever assembled together !

usa teams are now since that time , imo one of the best program for hockey prospects!

props to that team !

 

[Shabutie]

All I hear from you guys is cry cry cry! Your team didn't suck it up and play harder despite Fleury. You guys lost the game and we won. Bottom line.

I mean, Christ. This is what pisses off US fans time after time again. The pathetic inability of Canadians to give credit when credit is due. And I mean pathetic in every way possible.

There is no credit due...you guys didn't play better then we did.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

dont worry you won and got the medal ...

the only thing that bother canadian is that this team was highly touted as one of the best canadian team ever assembled together !

usa teams are now since that time , imo one of the best program for hockey prospects!

props to that team !

Yeah, that Canadian team really was fantastic, too. VERY deep.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

There is no credit due...you guys didn't play better then we did.

Then you should've won the game.

Sorry, but you're just looking more and more like a classless, sore loser right now.

But go ahead. Keep showing your true colors.

 

[Le Golie]

All I hear from you guys is cry cry cry! Your team didn't suck it up and play harder despite Fleury. You guys lost the game and we won. Bottom line.

I mean, Christ. This is what pisses off US fans time after time again. The pathetic inability of Canadians to give credit when credit is due. And I mean pathetic in every way possible.

I guess things are different when you come from a culture of winning. WJHC victories are expected in Canada, and when your team bombs a game like Canada did in 2004, it's not pathetic to call a spade a spade.

While you are taking patriotic cheap shots, let me say I'd consider failing to medal as a defending champs on home ice and then failing to medal as gold medal favourites in Vancouver is more pathetic than fan interpretations of the outcome of a game.

Calling a choke job a choke job isn't pathetic. A supposed hockey power winning one medal in 10 years is pathetic.

 

[Checker*]

[I]EJ is so overhyped[/I].


Backstrom
Toews
JJ
Rask
EJ
Barker
Mueller
Toews
Parent
O'Sullivan (even if he don't deserve it)

Oh yeah of course he is, and Carey Price will be walking on water this time next year.

I remember a little of the EJ is overrated sentiment at the beginning of the WJCs after some early mistakes. Johnson then settled down and, oh yeah, won defenseman of the tournament honors.

 

[Squeaky]

Then you should've won the game.

Sorry, but you're just looking more and more like a classless, sore loser right now.

But go ahead. Keep showing your true colors.

There are, at the time of this post, 146 posts in this thread. Jon has made 29 of them. That's roughly 1 in 5.

With that in mind, could we maybe try to focus a little more on the list, and a little less on WJCs from 4 years ago and rehashing old arguments from other threads?

 

[Hunter Gathers]

I guess things are different when you come from a culture of winning. WJHC victories are expected in Canada, and when your team bombs a game like Canada did in 2004, it's not pathetic to call a spade a spade.

While you are taking patriotic cheap shots, let me say I'd consider failing to medal as a defending champs on home ice and then failing to medal as gold medal favourites in Vancouver is more pathetic than fan interpretations of the outcome of a game.

Calling a choke job a choke job isn't pathetic. A supposed hockey power winning one medal in 10 years is pathetic.

Why are you attacking the US when I never said anything about the last number of teams being absolutely pathetic?

Unless you've missed my MANY comments about the US team around the WJC times in the last few years (and you'd have to VERY conveniently miss me constantly bashing the teams, selection processes, etc) than I suggest you dig up some old posts of mine about the US squad.

But I think you're trying to take a shot at me for the sake of it since I don't see how you could possibly have missed all my shots at the US squad year after year.

But hey, don't let that get in your way of taking a needless shot at me!