Hockey's Future Top 50 Prospects Fall 2005: 1-10

[The Pens Are Back*]

i didn't use him as an example.


one can also go look at hockey news future watch. where is fluery ranked there?


isn't that what all these "prospects lists" are based on...POTENTIAL!

 

[The Pens Are Back*]

Pure homerism. I like Lundqvist a lot but to suggest that Glen Sather or any other gm wouldn't deal him one on one for Fleury is pathetic. Don't forget, he is 23, whereas Fleury is only 20. Upside-wise, Fleury is the best goalie prospect in the entire league, not that I contest the fact that Lehtonen has earned his no.1 ranking amongst goaltenders. In fact, Lundqvist was such a can't-miss prospect that the Rangers selected Montoya number 6 in 2004, in front of the likes of Olesz (7) and Tukonen (11). Do not misunderstand me, I think Lundqvist deserved his spot in the top 50 and that he will better than Alvarito. Still, picking him ahead of Fleury would be, IMO, foolish ...

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the ranger and flyer fans who do...are making a "homer" choice

i could say go ask the pens board and you would get 100% for fluery. i am not knocking either of the other 2 goalies

instead go on a nuetral fans board and ask the same question. i wouldn't be suprised if it at least 80 % for fluery

 

[FLYLine27*]

take a poll (like the list HF just did)


no brainer

Go make Polls on the Ranger and Philly board...

Rangers:
Would you Trade Lundqvist for Fleury (you'll probably get a 70/30 response not doing that trade)

Philly
Would you trade Niittymaki for Fleury (You'll probably get the same response...probably more like 80/20 though)


I think you would be in for a suprise.

 

[hab 4ever]

No brainer?

I dont think so. Ask some Philly and Ranger fans that. Im not so sure i'd trade Lundqvist for Fleury.

Pure homerism. I like Lundqvist a lot but to suggest that Glen Sather or any other gm wouldn't deal him one on one for Fleury is pathetic. Don't forget, he is 23, whereas Fleury is only 20. Upside-wise, Fleury is the best goalie prospect in the entire league, not that I contest the fact that Lehtonen has earned his no.1 ranking amongst goaltenders. In fact, Lundqvist was such a can't-miss prospect that the Rangers selected Montoya number 6 in 2004, in front of the likes of Olesz (7) and Tukonen (11). Do not misunderstand me, I think Lundqvist deserved his spot in the top 50 and that he will better than Alvarito. Still, picking him ahead of Fleury would be, IMO, foolish ...

 

[FLYLine27*]

Pure homerism. I like Lundqvist a lot but to suggest that Glen Sather or any other gm wouldn't deal him one on one for Fleury is pathetic. Don't forget, he is 23, whereas Fleury is only 20. Upside-wise, Fleury is the best goalie prospect in the entire league, not that I contest the fact that Lehtonen has earned his no.1 ranking amongst goaltenders. In fact, Lundqvist was such a can't-miss prospect that the Rangers selected Montoya number 6 in 2004, in front of the likes of Olesz (7) and Tukonen (11). Do not misunderstand me, I think Lundqvist deserved his spot in the top 50 and that he will better than Alvarito. Still, picking him ahead of Fleury would be, IMO, foolish ...

Im not saying Lundqvist is better then Fleury..I just dont think the difference in the 2 right now is that far apart. Lundqvist has proved he can dominate an entire league with NHLers in it...Con..will he be able to do that in NA? Fleury has the potential to be a superstar goalie...Con..he has not shown that this year by any means.

 

[hab 4ever]

Im not saying Lundqvist is better then Fleury..I just dont think the difference in the 2 right now is that far apart. Lundqvist has proved he can dominate an entire league with NHLers in it...Con..will he be able to do that in NA? Fleury has the potential to be a superstar goalie...Con..he has not shown that this year by any means.

Ok. I understand your point. Still, I do not think Fleury is overrated at no.7. It might be Lundqvist who is underrated.

 

[The Pens Are Back*]

i screwed up the other post by hitting edit

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the ranger and flyer fans who do...are making a "homer" choice

i could say go ask the pens board and you would get 100% for fluery. i am not knocking either of the other 2 goalies

instead go on a nuetral fans board and ask the same question. i wouldn't be suprised if it at least 80 % for fluery

 

[DBL]

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the ranger and flyer fans who do...are making a "homer" choice

i could say go ask the pens board and you would get 100% for fluery. i am not knocking either of the other 2 goalies

instead go on a nuetral fans board and ask the same question. i wouldn't be suprised if it at least 80 % for fluery

What you think of a Toivonen Vs. Fluery?

 

[Fitzlax99]

I'm a Ranger fan and while I love Lundqvist, I dont think you can make a valid comparison between him and Fleury. Fleury is three years younger and has already had a successful stint in the NHL.

Either way, I'm glad we have Lundqvist...

 

[FLYLine27*]

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the ranger and flyer fans who do...are making a "homer" choice

i could say go ask the pens board and you would get 100% for fluery. i am not knocking either of the other 2 goalies

instead go on a nuetral fans board and ask the same question. i wouldn't be suprised if it at least 80 % for fluery

Me niether. Majority of those fans havn't followed Niittymaki and Lundqvist..but they sure know Fluery that guy who was chosen 1st overall. Others won't by into the hype of Lundqvist until he plays in NA. Some will say Niittymaki hasn't proved himself in the NHL.

If fans had to choose a goalie outta those 3..I think they would pick the youngest with the highest upside....so they would choose Fleury.

 

[Roger's Pancreas*]

Glad to see that I'm not the only one who disagrees with Fleury being that high.

 

[The Pens Are Back*]

which is why he is high on the HF lists.

 

[The Pens Are Back*]

What you think of a Toivonen Vs. Fluery?

i honestly dont know much about him aside from a few threads here and there

 

[John Flyers Fan]

here a question.....would the rangers trade luvquist staight up for fluery. same with the flyers and their goalie?
no brainer

I wouldn't.

 

[Gags1288]

I would really like a Pens fan to tell me what Fleury has done in the past two years to warrant being a top 10 prospect. He put up pathetic numbers in the AHL and was beat out for the starters job by Andy Chiodo. When he played in the playoffs he was pretty bad and was lit up on more then one occasion. Now i'm not saying that the guy doesn't have a lot of talent because he certainly does and I'm not saying that he hasn't done some pretty impressive things during his career (his first month in Pittsburgh comes to mind). But if you're looking at the total body of work, I simply cannot understand how you can justify putting Fleury so high. I would take Lehtonen and Toivonen over Fleury without hesitation.

 

[A Good Flying Bird*]

Even considering that Crosby is a better prospect and rightly deserves to be #1. And it does not border on nitpicking, it is nitpicking

Call me crazy ... Crosby sure has had a lot of hype, but I've nevr seen him play against grown men.
Ovechkin, IMO, has already shown he can be a factor against NHL caliber opponents.
I wouldn't put Crosby THAT far ahead of Ovechkin.
And I think all the talk about "the next one" is really, really stupid. I mean, give the kid a chance to break in before tagging him with unrealistic expectations.

 

[MojoJojo]

take a poll (like the list HF just did)


no brainer

Thats just a reflection of all hype surrounding Fleury. Most of the people who would vote in that poll have never seen all (if any) of these guys even play.

 

[Gags1288]

Just an addition, how can it be justified having Fleury that high and no mention of guys like Hugh Jessimen and Robert Nielsen? All three of these guys were top 15 picks in a great '03 draft and all 3 have played poorly since being drafted (Jessimen has a lot of injuries). Why do the latter two fall off the face of the earth and Fleury remains at the top? I'm sure it has a ton to do with where he was drafted and nothing to do with how he has played.

 

[MojoJojo]

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the ranger and flyer fans who do...are making a "homer" choice

i could say go ask the pens board and you would get 100% for fluery. i am not knocking either of the other 2 goalies

instead go on a nuetral fans board and ask the same question. i wouldn't be suprised if it at least 80 % for fluery

OK, taking my own homer goalie out of the picture, I would easily take Toivonen over Fleury.

 

[FLYLine27*]

OK, taking my own homer goalie out of the picture, I would easily take Toivonen over Fleury.

Agreed

 

[The Pens Are Back*]

Thats just a reflection of all hype surrounding Fleury. Most of the people who would vote in that poll have never seen all (if any) of these guys even play.

the people who vote in the hockey news future watch have. the voters there were either scouts or general managers. i believe fluery was top 10 in that one also

 

[King Fish]

I honestly think Mike Richards should have beat out Perezhogin for the 25 spot. Sure he is a more defencive player but look at his numbers in the AHL.

 

[loadie]

Very good list. I'm not sure about MAF however. Sometimes I feel he gets put a little higher due to his draft position. O well, these lists are fun to read and to look back on in a few years to see how things go. Good work everyone.

 

[Vincent_TheGreat]

How the hell is Nikolai Zherdev still a prospect!!!!!!

 

[flambers]

How the hell is Nikolai Zherdev still a prospect!!!!!!

I agree, he should be removed from the list