Hockey's Future Organizational Rankings, Spring 2011 11-20

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  1. HF Article

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    The middle third of the NHL organization rankings as voted on by HF staff.

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  2. HanSolo

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    So...I guess this means Ducks are top 10? Nice.
     
  3. McMatthews

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    Prediction for top 10...

    1. Nashville
    2. Los Angeles
    3. Florida
    4. Toronto
    5. St. Louis
    6. Edmonton
    7. Islanders
    8. Columbus
    9. Rangers
    10. Anaheim
     
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    Nashville? What forwards do they have?
     
  5. Gutchecktime

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    I really like some of their Top 5 especially Rundblad but there's such a huge drop off after that... so I'd say, yes, absolutley.

    At least before the draft and prospects like Reimer, Aulie, Kadri graduate.
     
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    Nice to see the Isles finally made it back to the top ten. That's a real good sign considering the guys that have graduated the last two years aren't factored into these things.
     
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    I'd assume that they base their rankings on depth in each position. While some would argue that Rubland is the best prospect on both teams, myself included, Toronto has better depth in every position (with atleast one impact player in each). Although our prospect lists are highlighted by high potential players (Kadri, Gardiner and Colborne vs. Rubland, Cowen, and Lehner) you go down Toronto's list and you find Reimer (one of the best rookie goalies this season), Aulie (massive shutdown D already in the NHL), Mckegg (92 point season in the OHL), Blacker (5th in regular season defensive scoring, 2nd in playoffs), Ross (PPG in the dub), Frattin (Hobey Baker finalist), D'amigo (who was almost at 2 PPG in his short stint with the KR) and Nichols (87 pts in 71 games in the dub) where as Ottawas prospects drop off significantly after their top 5.
     
  8. McMatthews

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    They have a handful of good forward prospects. Beck, Budish, Geoffrion, Watson, Latta and Klasen are all very interesting prospects. They also have Gabriel Bourque ranked in the later teens that shows pretty good depth.

    Nashville has great talent on the blue line and in the crease when it comes to prospects.
     
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    Who needs forwards when you can just ice 5 defensemen?

    Blum - Ellis - Weber
    Suter - Josi
    Rinne
     
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    It's damn close. I like the versatility of Silfverberg, so I'll choose him.
     
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    Cool to see Hawks move up this year. However, I think it would be cooler to see more recent updates made on all of our prospects instead of just rating the organization's prospect pool.
     
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    I don't really see how. It might be not as far apart as the two prospects' draft positions would suggest but I'm not sure I see the argument as to how Silfverberg is better.
     
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    Realistically i have them 7/8th:

    1. Los Angeles
    2. Florida
    3. Nashville
    4. Columbus
    5. St. Louis
    6. Islanders
    7. Anaheim
    8. Toronto
    9. Rangers
    10. Edmonton
     
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    How are the Rangers top 10? I don't understand that. I had us pegged around 13-15 or so. With all of the graduations, this makes zero sense to me. I mean, Thomas and Kreider are really great prospects. But top 10 in terms of an overall prospect pool? Eesh.
     
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    Actually just realized that McDonagh didn't graduate. I guess it makes more sense looking at it that way, but I still don't think the Rangers have a top 10 prospect pool.
     
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    Where's 20-30?
     
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    I can't see Rangers or leafs ahead of Oilers.

    Marincin, Petry, Hamilton, Pitlick, Hartikainen, Tuebert, Omark, Plante, Lander, Martindale, Roy, Bunz Most of these guys (goaltenders still uncertain) already look like they'll land NHL jobs.

    I will agree these lists are stupid 1 month before the draft. Right now Oilers being ahead of Leafs and Rangers is just my personal opinion, but after the draft it won't be close.
     
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    For a while he was getting a lot of love from Swedish posters - most notably fans of Brynas, his team in Sweden. Sens fans were able to follow him through the Swedish posters in the Swedish prospect thread here on HF and got caught up in the hype, but after seeing him play for Sweden at the Worlds, it certainly wasn't hyperbole. He's tough, he likes to drive the net and he's got a filthy wrist shot. There's varying opinions on whether he can be a top line player, a 2nd line player or a very important 3rd line PKer with offensive upside, but the same can be said for Colborne from what I've seen.

    IMO, it's very close between the 2 prospects, but we'll soon know more as rumour has it Silfverberg will sign with Ottawa and cross the pond this summer to get some AHL action in.
     
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    I put the Leafs and Rangers ahead because with Hall, Pajaarvi and Eberle graduating it seems as though Edmonton does not really have any impact players in their prospect pool where as Toronto has Kadri and Rangers have Kreider.
     
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    I don't see the Oilers as top 10, either. I would take the Rangers group over the Oilers group without thinking twice.
     
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    All hell will break loose, but people need to take a deep breath and realize, yes the Leafs do have a great prospect pool, and Burke has really helped with that.

    Amazing goalie depth. Higher end talent at forward. Good puck movers in the system. The only glaring weakness might be top end potential on the wings past Frattin, D'amigo and Ross, who all 3 may not end up having top 6 potential themselves.
     
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    F Nazem Kadri
    F Joe Colborne
    F Matt Frattin
    F Jerry D'Amigo
    F Marcel Mueller
    F Greg McKegg
    F Brad Ross
    D Jake Gardiner
    D Keith Aulie
    D Jesse Blacker
    D Korbinian Holzer
    D Juraj Mikus
    G James Reimer
    G Jussi Rynnas
    G Ben Scrivens

    That group is as good as, if not better than the list of prospects Edmonton has.

    Eberle, Hall and MSP graduated. So they don't count according to HF.com's criteria.
     
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    lol...

    Jakob Silfverberg
    Stephane Da Costa
    Patrick Wiercioch
    Bobby Butler
    Mark Stone
    Jim O'Brien
    Louie Caporusso
    Erik Condra
    Colin Greening
    Andre Petersson

    just to name a few...



    The thing is after naming cowen,rundblad, and lehner, you stopped naming sens prospects that are arguably just as good as the following leaf prospects you named.
     
  24. McMatthews

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    Just because you posted a list of prospects doesn't mean the list is as good as Toronto's list.

    Because it doesn't match up.
     
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    That is a solid group no doubt and deserves to be 10-15, but not over Ottawa's.
     

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