Hockey-reference.com Player Rankings

[kmad]

I just got Charlie vs. Lionel Conacher.

 

[Prophecy35]

This is a great way to pass some time. I had some tough matchups the last time I did it. Well, matchups that seemed closer than I expected they would be.

Russ Courtnall vs. Langenbrunner
Larmer vs. Lemaire

I barely voted Langenbrunner, and the only two things that made me choose Lemaire (just considering his playing days) were his cups, and his hall of fame induction. IMO, unless I am totally off here, Larmer isn't that far behind, even though he isn't in. "Poor man's" Lemaire maybe?

 

[kmad]

I'd say Larmer is more like a poorly timed Lemaire. Put him in place of Lemaire, Tonelli or Anderson and he's in the Hall of Fame right now.

 

[reckoning]

They're doing the same thing on their baseball and basketball sites. Babe Ruth has a slight lead over Ted Williams on the baseball one, while in basketball Michael Jordan is way ahead of everyone else.

 

[Merya]

Much fun, although I use the skip function quite a bit because I don't want to decide between two players that I know next to nothing about.

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

Much fun, although I use the skip function quite a bit because I don't want to decide between two players that I know next to nothing about.

They would encourage this if skip was a faster way to get to the next matchup. But instead it's actually a bit more effort to do so which means a lot of judgements will be simply made on a snap to get to the next one.

 

[Merya]

They would encourage this if skip was a faster way to get to the next matchup. But instead it's actually a bit more effort to do so which means a lot of judgements will be simply made on a snap to get to the next one.

Well, I check the numbers also in those pairs I skip just for fun and knowledge, so the second or two doesn't bother me. If I tire at looking at the numbers, it's my indication to do something else.

 

[Axxellien]

..Silly:

..No kudos for Norris, Calder, Lady Byng, Art Ross winners...Bronco Horvath, Goalie Don Simmons not included..Ridiculous

 

[RabbinsDuck]

Weird - Gretzky has come up for voting a full 100 less times than the others. I thought it was strange he was trailing so badly. Normalized he would be up on Orr by over a hundred points.
I thought for a while there it was just a lot of anti-Gretzky voters.

Yzerman, a hundred times more, which would explain why he was in 5th for a while.

 

[ThankYouBasedGod]

Donald Audette keeps popping up for me lol.

 

[pappyline]

..No kudos for Norris, Calder, Lady Byng, Art Ross winners...Bronco Horvath, Goalie Don Simmons not included..Ridiculous

Agree, the selection criteria is quite ridiculous. The 3 AS game criteria really favors fringe players on cup winners. This is why you are seeing guys like Andre Pronovost and Bob Turner instead of Bronco Horvath & Don Simmons. It also leaves off players who predate the AS game.

The site is quite addictive though. However it is frustrating that the top players seem to pop up so rarely.

 

[lextune]

The list is becoming worse instead of better.

 

[lextune]

Weird - Gretzky has come up for voting a full 100 less times than the others. I thought it was strange he was trailing so badly. Normalized he would be up on Orr by over a hundred points.
I thought for a while there it was just a lot of anti-Gretzky voters.

Yzerman, a hundred times more, which would explain why he was in 5th for a while.

Just noticed these details as well.

 

[KingGallagherXI]

Some of the matchups are really weird. Randy Carlyle vs Marian Gaborik... Jesus, huh... Carlyle I guess? Just weird.

 

[reckoning]

It looks like Detroit fans have decided to hijack the voting based on the current standings:

1. Bobby Orr
2. Gordie Howe
3. Wayne Gretzky
4. Steve Yzerman
5. Paul Coffey
6. Ted Lindsay
7. Nicklas Lidstrom
8. Mario Lemieux

It wouldn't be quite so suspicious if it wasn't for Yzerman and Lindsay having over 100 more matches than the other top players.

Vote for Rory v2.0?

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

How do they have so many more votes though? Do red wings fans just skip every matchup that doesn't have their favorites?

Doesn't seem worth our time if this is how the results end up.

 

[overpass]

Re: the Detroit thing, Peter Forsberg is below Pavel Datsyuk now.

Also Hasek-Sawchuk are 1-2 for goalies with a gap below them.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Ugh, well fan voting always sounds like a good idea at the time...

Seriously surprised that the main board crowd even knows about hockey reference.

 

[pappyline]

There are obviously several Detroit fans spending a lot of time voting here. I seem to remember them doing this on another poll a while back.

I guess they are voting their favs every time no matter how long the odds. Other top guys like Lemieux & Hull they are always voting against.

Makes the poll not worth the time.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

They should implement something where, if you consistently make choices that go against the consensus, there's an IP ban.

 

[RabbinsDuck]

That's lame.
Seems difficult though - I've been on there for hours and just so rarely get those marquee matchups, that it would be hard to really exercise that much favoritism.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

The best solution is to popularize it amongst people who know what they're looking at.

I'm finding this an excellent exercise in what I favour when ranking all-time players. When I started this, it was hard to see a pattern, but now I know more about what I think is important.

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

It's inevitable with public voting. Detroit is a popular team, but all it takes is it being posted on a fan forum for another team and their guys get voted up.

At the start Orr and Bourque got propped up massively so you could have assumed a Boston fan bias too.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

There's still a bit to go, but the ratings look a lot better today.

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

Somehow Bobby Hull has managed to pass Gretzky. I don't know but it's been going for a month or so and it still doesn't look that great.