Speculation: Hockey Ops Roulette (The Chayka Syndrome)

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Since it looks like there's going to be a number of changes coming beyond finding a new GM we can keep all the hockey ops discussion here:

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TheLegend

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Weekes is only one of "a ton" of people Florida has talked to according to Friedman.

From his latest 31 thoughts....

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3. The Panthers’ introductory interviews for their GM vacancy were done mainly by President & CEO Matt Caldwell, along with Michael Viola — one of owner Vinny Viola’s sons.

As The New York Post’s Larry Brooks reported, Rangers assistant GM Chris Drury withdrew from consideration. He was a serious contender, if not the front-runner, and there are sources who believe he was going to be offered the job, if he hadn’t been offered it already.

The Panthers have talked to a ton of people, including: St. Louis assistant GM Bill Armstrong, Montreal scout Sean Burke, former Edmonton GM Peter Chiarelli, Boston executive director of player personnel John Ferguson, former Los Angeles assistant GM Michael Futa, Toronto assistant GM Laurence Gilman, former Philadelphia GM Ron Hextall, former Vancouver GM Mike Gillis, OHL London’s Mark Hunter, Montreal assistant GM Scott Mellanby, NBC’s Ed Olczyk and NHL Network analyst Kevin Weekes.

4. Head coach Joel Quenneville is expected to become more involved as the finalists are selected. That might seem counter-intuitive, but when your head coach has as much juice as Quenneville does, it makes sense. The Panthers’ timeline for a new hire was early September, and the calendar flips on Tuesday.
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Friedman also went on to say (in thought #5) a lot of those names will end up getting looked at here.
 

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Weekes has an asset that none of the other candidates have. Abd like it or not in 2020 that asset in high demand, I suspect that demand will increase. I also suspect next time aroubd it will be Anson Carter getting the buzz.
 

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Weekes has an asset that none of the other candidates have. Abd like it or not in 2020 that asset in high demand, I suspect that demand will increase. I also suspect next time aroubd it will be Anson Carter getting the buzz.

If you mean the asset that neither he nor Carter are Peter Chiarelli, then I agree! :sarcasm:
 

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If you mean the asset that neither he nor Carter are Peter Chiarelli, then I agree! :sarcasm:
I still believe Chiarelli will end up in an extremely senior executive position. Brilliant Harvard man that he is, he would never have allowed the kinds of shenanigans that led to the draconian sanction. That will be the company line. They need that experienced, guiding hand, who has supreme policy knowledge and can protect them from these kinds of mistakes in the future.

Even Craig Morgan, chief Chiarelli critic for years, will admit that while he doesn’t think Chiarelli is the best fit, he can understand the move given the circumstances.

Everyone conveniently forget that there are 30 better GMs employed that also never got busted running illegal combines. And that the other highly qualified candidates such as Shero, Hextall, Futa, Zito, etc never did either.

It would seem that Chiarelli’s sole policy super power is simply not being John Chayka.

But no one will mention that. They’ll all say it’s a nice, safe, mature, stable pick. As though there weren’t a plethora of other candidates that also fit the description.
 

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It would seem that Chiarelli’s sole policy super power is simply not being John Chayka.

That, and being a FoB.

I can't wait for Bettman's comment in the press release saying, "I've known Peter for decades, and he brings not just a wealth of experience in hockey operations to the job, but also the people skills and insight that I have always admired in him."
 

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Kinda funny seeing Eddie Olczyks name appear when it’s us and Florida looking for a new GM. Florida owner Viola is a horse racing man himself, and Meruelo is a casino/gambling man, where horse racing is a big draw. I know this doesn’t really have anything to do with it, but funny nonetheless.
 
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It's equal parts maddening and heartbreaking that we're talking about trading away lynchpin players from this team...OEL and Kuemper specifically...and are even hearing rumblings in the media to back up @rt's insane fantasy hockey proposals, rather than oust RT and try these players under another HC/system. I dont recall feeling this specific flavor of frustration with this team before; it was always more like:

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Or...

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And a couple times...

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It's equal parts maddening and heartbreaking that we're talking about trading away lynchpin players from this team...OEL and Kuemper specifically...and are even hearing rumblings in the media to back up @rt's insane fantasy hockey proposals, rather than oust RT and try these players under another HC/system. I dont recall feeling this specific flavor of frustration with this team before; it was always more like:

Maybe it's just 2020 - everything seems awful this year by default - but I think we're hamstrung by the fact that Tocchet doesn't predate Meruelo by too long, so there's no pressing imperative on the owner's part to get rid of him yet.

I think, too, that this particular flavor of ennui - and we're up to Baskin Robbins numbers of ennui flavors we've suffered as a fanbase by now - is exacerbated by both the pandemic and by how violently we were kicked in the berries by our expectations. After all, we started 2019/2020 with a new billionaire owner, a genuine star player in Kessel who Tocchet (allegedly) had recently guided to a career year, and the buzz of nearly making the playoffs after years of absolute futility - and then we traded for another star in Taylor Hall. That's the shot - the chaser was a post-trade losing streak, COVID, and then folding up like a cheap tent in the most embarrassing way imaginable during the Avs series.

What we're left with at the moment is Tocchet with tenure, a roster of bro hockey veterans and unmotivated youngsters, a scandal-ridden front office, and a billionaire with tight purse strings. Hard not to feel the hand of doom hovering over us.
 

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It's equal parts maddening and heartbreaking that we're talking about trading away lynchpin players from this team...OEL and Kuemper specifically...and are even hearing rumblings in the media to back up @rt's insane fantasy hockey proposals, rather than oust RT and try these players under another HC/system. I dont recall feeling this specific flavor of frustration with this team before; it was always more like:

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Or...

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And a couple times...

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The core of the team is not good enough to compete. Not with any coach. We need to fire the coach, certainly. But also need to trade these players. They just aren’t good enough.
 
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This is Craig talking about what the fans and others around the league want, not what he's hearing is actually happening.

I see way too many people that think Doan is going to be the one to fix things.
Yeah, that’s just the names he’s heard multiple times from chatting with folks around the league. Not from the team.
 

Fuhrious

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This is Craig talking about what the fans and others around the league want, not what he's hearing is actually happening.

I see way too many people that think Doan is going to be the one to fix things.
Honestly, I thought the same. Almost replied saying his "sources" sound eerily like RT, Mosby and Del...
 

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I’d be quite pleased with Ron Hextall. His AHL and NHL management track-record is extremely solid from a slow but steady improvement by the building of solid foundation approach. Basically what we’ve lacked for 25 years and why we’ve never been very good or even just pretty good in a sustainable way.

Hextall has actually proved it. He’s actually done the things we need done. That’s why I like him so much better than not only Burke or Doan but also better than Futa or Drury or Mellanby, etc.
 

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Is Drury on our list? I heard he pulled himself from the Florida job.

Also heard Futa likes the Florida job better than this one.
 

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