Michael Farkas
Grace Personified
You coached peewee kids to destroy?
That doesn't sound fun.
Who said peewee?
"Destroy" = opposite of create. Use short shifts/speed to curtail opponent creation. Easier to destroy than create.
You coached peewee kids to destroy?
That doesn't sound fun.
No, just explains why Ovi and others do not score more relative to opportunities.
Signature spot. Recent phenomena, 20+ years.
Players from the past did not need a signature spot. Just an opening anywhere in front of the goal defined by the the two faceoff dots.
Gretzky, Sakic, Bossy, Jagr, Lafleur, Makarov, Hull, Howe, Beliveau, Esposito, Maurice Richard,others did not have signature spots.
This year Ovi is flirting with a 20% S%
Alex Ovechkin Stats | Hockey-Reference.com
Still hope.
Players from the past did not need a signature spot. Just an opening anywhere in front of the goal defined by the the two faceoff dots.
No it really doesn't.
A simple eye test of goalies and their equipment size is a more rational explanation.
Also it's weird to use Ovechkin as an example of not scoring when his dominance in that reguard is probably the best of all time over a sustained and prolonged period.
No you are right those players didn't need a signature spot due to much more open net and lesser goalie equipment and less structured defences.
Not reflected by league results at midseason. Last season TG/G 5.94, 2018-19 to date 6.12. SV% are down- 0.904 from 0.908.
Ovi,S% at 18.8% from 13.8%, last year trending to the 320-325 range.
Reflects an improvement in Ovi's game , not league trends.
Watching more hockey lately. Defences are even more structured.Players with a signature spot become easier to find and defend.
Other factors you list are very marginal with almost zero impact.
So the size of the goalie equipment has had almost zero impact?
That's a very weak arguement to defend with the facts.
Well he just defended it with facts.
Signature spot. Recent phenomena, 20+ years.
Players from the past did not need a signature spot. Just an opening anywhere in front of the goal defined by the the two faceoff dots.
Gretzky, Sakic, Bossy, Jagr, Lafleur, Makarov, Hull, Howe, Beliveau, Esposito, Maurice Richard,others did not have signature spots.
This year Ovi is flirting with a 20% S%
Alex Ovechkin Stats | Hockey-Reference.com
Still hope.
The original comment was about other players or needing "signature spots" in comparison to Ovechkin
Obviously goaltendng equipment and team defensive schemes have drastically altered in the last 40 years.
No the comment was about signature spots being a recent 20+ year phenomena. Previously players were adept at finding open in the offensive cylinder defined by the two defensive faceoff dots.
And they still are, the biggest differences being the goaltending equipment combined with the defensive schemes and shot blocking ect.....
So if in vogue you should be able to name signature spots for three forwards per 2018-19 NHL team.
Meanwhile 1967 Bobby Hull 3 goal game.
Well you were the one bringing up signature spots not me.
I can't even see the goalposts anymore that's how far you have moved them.
Signature spots were introduced by another poster.
Good luck in life.
Signature spot. Recent phenomena, 20+ years.
Players from the past did not need a signature spot. Just an opening anywhere in front of the goal defined by the the two faceoff dots.
Gretzky, Sakic, Bossy, Jagr, Lafleur, Makarov, Hull, Howe, Beliveau, Esposito, Maurice Richard,others did not have signature spots.
This year Ovi is flirting with a 20% S%
Alex Ovechkin Stats | Hockey-Reference.com
Still hope.
From the 90's perhaps not a ton but I'm talking about very good to elite players from new areas not just depth guys.
For me the issue is elite very good to elite talent and places like Nova scotia, the 4 Euro countries listed above, nevermind the big 4 of Europe and the US have really changed the landscape from the 1970's (which had Salming basically) and before dramatically.
It takes a simple 15 minute search on hockey reference places of birth section to sort through this, yet the denial is so intense?
Why is that?.
Because you're picking and choosing to try and make your argument. Nova Scotia is still Canada, probably as many countries are down as up (the USA fills in the gaps with mostly depth players0
meanwhile the baby boom has passed and hockey is more expensive than ever. Oh, and there are way more professional teams. Both in the NHL and competing leagues like the KHL etc.
It is not nearly as simple as people think when they believe (not backed up by the facts) that somehow today's pool of available hockey talent is automatically better than the past.
You are the one that brought it up before the moving of the goalposts and avoidance of what you wrote.
...That said, I personally find that one timers are significantly easier with modern sticks (in relation to wood) and I honestly don't believe Ovechkin would be nearly as effective in his signature spot, attempting his signature shot with a wooden stick from the past...
Not in the first place, no. It was originally brought up in the following post, which you BTW liked:
Not in the first place, no. It was originally brought up in the following post, which you BTW liked:
Fast. Speed. The quickness component gets forgotten all the time.
Ovechkin does not execute his shot quickly before the goalie makes his reads. Lost skill.
Signature spot. Recent phenomena, 20+ years.
Players from the past did not need a signature spot. Just an opening anywhere in front of the goal defined by the the two faceoff dots.
Gretzky, Sakic, Bossy, Jagr, Lafleur, Makarov, Hull, Howe, Beliveau, Esposito, Maurice Richard,others did not have signature spots.
This year Ovi is flirting with a 20% S%
Alex Ovechkin Stats | Hockey-Reference.com
Still hope.
Slot is a fairly large area not a signature spot, which is a very limited area.
Also Esposito was not a blaster, no one talked about his shot. Esposito was a master of re-directs, quick release on rebounds( forehand and backhand) and passes from the boards, getting his shot on net before the goalie was set.