Clearly the answer is yes. you don't worry about losing any of those 3 guys on waivers even a little bit.
Sportsnet: (Hockey Central) Marc Savard: "Connor Carrick could go the way of the waivers"
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Clearly the answer is yes. you don't worry about losing any of those 3 guys on waivers even a little bit.
the issue is the leafs don't have enough useful players with physicality. other than kadri, no one else is willing to be physical. they need more guys who aren't complete liabilities to be physical. lay a hit when things aren't going your way or something like that.
not at all. come playoff time, other teams will take liberties on the leafs and the leafs won't respond back. that will effect the leafs game and make them a worse team.
That 2015 playoff team wasn't very tough.
That said, I do agree with you that team toughness is still a good trait for a successful playoff team and Carrick can go.
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All you have to do is look at the coach and see how much confidence he has in certain players.
Then you can watch him play, and then you can see if the stats re-assure you on the player.
Babcock is almost assuredly aware of the advanced stats, but probably understands how useful they are for coaching.
I thought Carrick was one of the better defenders last night against a minor league squad, but he certainly didn't stand out in a positive way.
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For a person to get paid over a million dollars to play a game of hockey is extremely successful. Even AHL players are making okay money to play a game.
They are all very successful at their craft.
That just shows how elite true NHL caliber players are.
However, I hope Carrick is not part of the Leafs going forward.
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You don’t have to be physical but you need to be able to take it, to play through the other team being physical.
If you are going to avoid it by staying on the perimeter you won’t win.
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I just don't get his thinking. He has always seemed to be in fantastic shape. Why would he not be putting all his off season effort into improving his hockey skills ON THE ICE?!?
Is he just obsessed with his body? It's so odd for a guy who has borderline NHL skill to be so focused on the gym. That is what I expect from already high skill guys who are trying to get stronger and quicker. I.e Marner.
ottomaddox
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This kind of post has an agenda attached to it.
I can't believe you would associate the Chicago Blackhawks as a team that had success "without being physical". Are you old enough to remember that Byfuglein played for Chicago?
Beyonder91
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Even their star players like Toews/Hossa/Keith/Saad/Seabrook could play a gritty game. Then they had guys like Ladd/Shaw/Bolland who could grind it out. The Hawks weren't laying massive open ice hits or anything but they had the horses to win in hard fought physical games. They had to in the West during their runs.
BodaciousBeefBazooka
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Leafs have been trying do that for the past decade under Ron Wilson, Randy Carlyle etc I guess we cant outscore our opponents and win? defense is meaningless?
I’m confused how marincin is still on this team. There is literally no one else including carrick that I wish to vanish from our prospect pool. Carrick is weird as well, he seems extremely intelligent in his interviews, everyone always talks about his athleticism yet he gets out muscled by everyone he goes against and is completely meh on the ice.
You’re the one here with an agenda.
Buff was on the first cup team only.
That 2015 team wasn’t tough.
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nice! I can dig it, big step up from Leto
