Hockey Cards - Part III

Discussion in 'National Hockey League Talk' started by Larry Hanson, Mar 16, 2021.

  1. OvieGreat8 Registered User

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    Open a $500 prizm blaster...most likely to get $10
     
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    e-Pack is never a smart decision financially. I don't recommend it.

    I spent $200+ on a 19-20 UD S1 box and some packs. You probably re-coup half the value.

    Granted I was able to trade the stuff from my box for a Kotkaniemi YG, 2X Poehling YG, and an Adam Boqvist YG. Not horrible. Also got some Romanov Synergy FX Rookies (/749 and /349).

    The one thing I like are the speckled base cards. I did it for Suzuki and Gallagher for 2020-21 UD S1 and I did it for Kotkaniemi for 19-20 UD S1.
     
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    Vs what, spending even more money on physical boxes to get the same cards that you can't even trade?
     
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    The trading is nice for sure. The prices are inflated I find, relative to physical boxes . Shipping is also a factor (the added cost and the wait time). Prices in general are a bit crazy right now.
     
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    No, the worst is a guy bragging about getting a box of FOTL Prizm basketball at a ridiculous price then getting nothing in the box then pumping tires on his garbage. Nothing is gonna beat that.

    There's a video of two creepy looking guys with a clickbait "we bought all the retail" title where they pull nothing then magically a card exclusive to hobby pops up in their last pack of retail that was opened off screen out there too.

    But, because I just made a killing on doge, I might giveaway a box of SPA or a YG to somebody here....
     
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    Well, somebody bought the first one, and the second one is ridiculous.

    Bad corners and that sig will come back a 9 if that while the card as a whole might grade out an 8/7.5.

    At that price, you can get a 9.5 or PSA 10
     
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    A psa 10 will sell for $2k-$3k
     
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    I feel like a lot of the time it just comes down to pure luck.

    A card can come out of a pack without issue, and have all the necessary precautions taken by the cardholder, but if there's an issue on the manufacturer's end there's nothing you can do, really. Like if the card is 0.025 millimeters off center or something, or if there's the slightest nick or crease along the edge, that could hurt its grading.
     
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    Depends on set/ year.

    Most cards are damaged before you even open the pack.

    There's only 30 PSA 10 Patrick Kane future watches.
     
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    Well that's what I'm getting at, they promote all these high-value cards, rookie auto patches, young guns, etc., but if you manage to pull one of these top cards and it was already damaged from production, that's gotta be a kick in the balls.

    That said, I don't think I'd be TOO upset if I got a Laffy or Kaprizov patch auto that was graded a 9 or something.

    Never had a card good enough to get graded before but I hear it takes a while.
     
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    Maybe on Fleabay
     
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    That comes from the huge premium a PSA 10 would get.
    A PSA 9 will easily sell for $1k if not more

    I would not be surprised if a 10 sold for $5k

    Maybe you don't know the market anymore.

    Mackinon fwa psa 10 sold for $7k and that's not a hard year to grade.

    I would get $1k for Nicklas Backstrom PSA 10...
     
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    Oh, I know the market. I just don't pay absurd prices.

    As for the 6k Mackinnon sale, he's 25 years old. Of course there's going to be speculation on potential growth from gamblers and from the look of it, somebody who listed the same card twice to pump the price. So odd was this, if you back check that year;

    http://www.watchcount.com/completed...w+Me!&csbin=all&cssrt=ts&bslr=&bnp=&bxp=#serp

    You will see Macks cards were artificially pumped up compared to other PSA 10's of that year and I'm 99% sure not one of those Macks actually changed money.

    Do you know the market?
     
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    You are not the market so it does not matter.
    I bought Mackinnon for $50. I would never pay that much either since he'll drop big in the future.
    Kane is still underpriced.

    The point is you will NEVER be able buy a Patrick Kane fwa PSA 10 for $1000.

    I know a few people that sold Mackinnons and money did exchange.
    The rest of PSA 10s that year are irrelevant.

    Everyone goes by Ebay with real or fake sales. It does not matter.
    Market gets set.
     
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    You keep railing against "Fleabay" as if there is some magical other site or community where people sell their cards for half the price that they could get on eBay. Why would they do that? eBay is just a representation of the free market. The demand is driven by consumers bidding (or straight buying) cards that individual sellers decide the price to list.

    eBay sucks specifically as a card collecting community and free market for sports cards. But it is the best thing available.

    It seems like you misunderstand basic market fundamentals like scarcity. Gem Mint graded, desirable cards are essentially veblen goods. Just because you disagree does not make it less true.
     
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    Got my replacement young guns from us today. They sent then to my old address and they'd been sitting at FedEx for 6 weeks. They aren't perfect, but much much better than the pokemon looking cards from before. Still choked about my bad luck this year. Do have 3 Jason Robertsons though. He might end up the best rookie in the set.
     
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    Lots of Facebook groups where people buy and sell cards. I've won a ton of cards lately razzing but can snatch some awesome deals on cards that go for much more on eBay. Great for selling as well, no fees whatsoever aside from shipping.
     
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    I have a BGS 10 Mack FWA , the card grades very hard as centering is normally off.
     
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    I sold two MacKinnon FWA BGS 9.5 for like $400 last year...Wish I kept them.
     
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    I sent a Vilardi in February still havent got it back yet. Pulled 2 more Vilardi since and they have the same terrible cut.
     
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    I opened my upper deck series 2 retail earlier in the week.. Romanov young guns was dinged on both top corners.. gonna send that in, not sure what I will get back for it
     
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    I used to collect back in the 90s and have boxes of cards I haven't looked at since then. About 20 years ago I bought an 89 opee chee vending box for $50, it's the one with the Joe Sakic rookie card. I think there are enough cards to make up 25 sets, not sure tho. Should probably check if that shit is worth something.
     
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    Never claimed I was but I'm not really trying to over inflate prices on cards on a message board, either. Just saying
    If that was the case, then you should sell it and run
    Did you see my reply about selling it?
    Well, making up prices because you think he's under priced isn't gonna change the market.
    Don't take that bet....just saying.

    The reason why there's limited amounts of PSA Kane FW high grades is because the card wasn't considered worthy of grading back in the day. No other reason. Plus, 2005 to around a year ago BGS was the grade company for current cards. Kane's year will have value because it's limited, not for his play on the ice.

    You know that, right?
    Sounds legit
    Lol what?

    When a Barkov 10 is selling at 400+ next to a Mack at 5 grand, yes, there's relevancy within the numbers are a certain amount of price pumping with the Macks.
    Ok, now you lost all credibility.

    The market is set on actual sales. Not shilled sales.

    Do you know who the shill sellers are? Or how to check if an auction is shilled? Do you know how to check if a sale actually goes thru?

    When you can answer those questions, lmk
     
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