Discussion in 'Vegas Golden Knights' started by BattleBorn, Aug 16, 2017.
Great news for us, it's never a bad thing to talk to college UFAs.
Steve Carp wrote a really good piece in the RJ as well: https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/golden-knights-nhl/top-college-free-agent-will-butcher-eyes-golden-knights/
There's some great quotes from Butcher's agent (who also represents Alex Tuch), especially this one:
Duke, Glass, Butcher... it's like Billionaire Bill tells McPhee: "That guy sounds good."
Apparently, and take this how you will coming from Avs fans, but not only is he small, he is slow too.
If you are small, you have to be a barn burner to survive in the league.
I reas another Brad Hunt type player in Butcher. AHL star but can't crack a roster.
Edit: I should add that at least some player agents are aware of the benefits of Vegas, and they are already bringing a little bit of prestige as a new team. Not a bad thing.
Then throw him down to the A, what's the worst that could happen? If he shines, he shines. If he doesn't, not much lost.
I've got no problem with that. He'd probably play with a bit of a chip on his shoulder to prove everyone wrong - especially the Avs.
It would only be a 2-year ELC anyway.
The more chances at a star player the better. If we can sign him it's basically a free draft pick.
Free prospects?? Yes please!
AHL, ECHL, etc. Works for me.
That hasn't stopped the Knights scouting dep't from drafting a couple of slow-footed first rounders this summer!
IIRC, Vegas currently has ~45 (of 50 limit) NHL contracts active.
Who are you implying? Suzuki is average, but Glass, and Hague are good skaters for their size, and Brannstrom will probably be a top 50 skater in the league when he establishes himself.
Apparently the Pens are in as well.
I don't see how you pass up the Pens.
I don't know - he's not better than anyone in their top 6 at the NHL level, and their AHL defense is stacked. I understand the appeal of playing for the reigning champs, but he would get lost in the shuffle there. Chicago - and the chance to play closer to home - seems more likely to me than Pittsburgh.
I'm wondering if there's any NHL team that can guarantee him a spot in the lineup - the AHL is more likely for him, and I'm curious if he and his agent have been discussing that.
Undoubtedly this is what they are looking at. He really doesn't project out to be much better than bottom pairing regular, his physical attributes just are what they are. He developed nicely over his time at DU, but when it was over he was a man playing with other men competing against the boys as they were one of the best teams seen in the NCAA in recent years.
I get that he felt disrespected by the Avs, but no one is going to go out of their way to treat a 5th round pick with velvet gloves. He's going to be 23 early in the upcoming campaign while there are more talented kids with bigger upside and physical skills in juniors who are 4-5 years younger hungry for his spot. They will eventually pass him.
Anyone in the system who he's played with or is friends with?
I can't find anyone, but most of the good resources aren't much help on the Knights right now.
Butcher played on the US National Development team in 2011-12 and 2012-13. Stefan Matteau was his teammate during the first season, and Alex Tuch was his teammate in the second.
Meeting with the Devils today too, apparently.
Everyone says he should come here for PT, but the blueline here is already a little crowded.
It sounds like he and his agent are being realistic about his future, and trying to find a place where he can fit in for the next 10 years, rather than getting immediate NHL time - I'd bet he's going to spend most (if not all) of this season in the AHL anyway. We can offer him a chance to play in the AHL near his family in Wisconsin, and then he'd have a great shot to crack the lineup next year when our blueline is sorted out after we've shed the excess D-men.
I don't know about this. I think he's realizing he may not even get to the big money which comes in 4-5 years if he's doing well. If he had confidence in the 10-year plan he would do what Blaine Byron did today in signing a minor league contract that allows himself to take the first good one-way contract offer he can get from any team. Sure he could develop into a guy that plays for 10 years, but being realistic he and his agent have to assume he may not get much of a contract after the first 2-year, 2-way contract he can get now.
Butcher apparently has talked with 10 teams.
Supposed to make decision tomorrow 8/27.
Signed with NJ. Oh well.
Would have been worth a flyer, but not a big loss.
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