Hlinka Gretzky Cup

[Crosbyfan]

Nice that Gretzky's name was added to the Ivan Hlinka Memorial Cup. I didn't even know he was dead.

 

[Wooren]

But Canada hockey adds money, lots of money. Check for example Official Website of the Hlinka Gretzky Cup (official website) ... when it was here in CZE and SVK it was only dream to have some some official web. I think it's fair to have it one year at home and one year in NA.

I agree Gretzky Hlinka cup is silly name. It should be something neutral like "Young stars hockey games or tourney" with groups called Hlinka group and Gretzky group and and the winner is gonna get Hlinka cup.

It better be lots, lots of money then. Hlinka Memorial is the probably the 3rd most important junior tournament after U20 WJC and U18 WJC. Hopefully partially selling it helps the Czech and Slovak hockey in long run. As for the websites, that just isn't true. In the past few years the official homepage was good enough.
Naming the groups after Hlinka and Gretzky would have been much better than we actually got. Hlinka Gretzky just sounds so stupid, who thought putting two names next to each other will make for a good name? Not a fan of naming tournaments after still alive people either. Howe would have been a better choice.

 

[kudla]

Adding Gretzky name there is dehonesting. So Stupid, can't get over it

 

[JimboA]

Here is Sweden's roster:

U18-truppen till Hlinka Gretzky Cup

Two of the four goalies will be cut before they go to Canada. Underage players are Jesper Wallstedt, Alexander Holtz and Lucas Raymond.

Edit: Schedule and locations for the pre-tournament games can be found here:
2018 Hlinka Gretzky Cup August 6-11 2018

 

[RWatson29]

Canada is beyond stacked. Byram, Robertson, cozens, dach, krebs, lafreniere, newhook, Pelletier, Suzuki, Williams

 

[JJTT]

Finland will likely miss Kakko since he is with the U20 team atm.

Camp roster: Leijonat.fi - U18 Pikkuleijonien toinen kesäopiskeluviikko järjestetään heinäkuussa Vierumäellä - Tässä joukkue!

 

[ijuka]

Might miss the u18 training camp for sure, but I don't know why Kakko would miss Ivan Hlinka.

 

[Jussi]

Might miss the u18 training camp for sure, but I don't know why Kakko would miss Ivan Hlinka.

Because they usually don't play kids in consecutive junior tournaments for different age groups.

 

[ijuka]

Because they usually don't play kids in consecutive junior tournaments for different age groups.

But Kakko's not played at Hlinka yet. And take a look at how many top prospect never played there. Look at Kotkaniemi and Kupari who both played at Hlinka after participating at u18 worlds as underagers.

 

[Jussi]

But Kakko's not played at Hlinka yet. And take a look at how many top prospect never played there. Look at Kotkaniemi and Kupari who both played at Hlinka after participating at u18 worlds as underagers.

Who cares? Our federation has never priotirized this tournament as much, they've tested/played younger players at Lake Placid/U-20 if it's best for their development and they can play with the older age group.

 

[FinPanda]

Kakko will be with the U20 team, he doesn't have to play with U18 guys when he is maybe the best player in our U20 team lol.

 

[ijuka]

Kakko will be with the U20 team, he doesn't have to play with U18 guys when he is maybe the best player in our U20 team lol.

Eh, certainly wasn't in that game today ... And in any case, ivan hlinka as a tournament is much more prestigeous than whatever u20 tournament it is at the same time.

 

[FinPanda]

Eh, certainly wasn't in that game today ... And in any case, ivan hlinka as a tournament is much more prestigeous than whatever u20 tournament it is at the same time.

Not for Finns. I would be surprised if he is not with the U20 team. And this was just a first game after a long break. He will get better.

You can appreciate the Hlinka more but your opinion doesn't matter much in this case as you can't decide where Kakko will play. Only thing that is is sure is that Kakko will be at the U18 WHC if he is healthy and TPS doesn't play.

I could be wrong about the Hlinka though. Time will tell.

 

[ijuka]

You really think that a random u20 tournament in Canada is more prestigeous in Finland than Ivan Hlinka?

Also, as I said, Kupari and Kotkaniemi recently both participated in Ivan Hlinka after participating at u18s the season before.

 

[Jussi]

You really think that a random u20 tournament in Canada is more prestigeous in Finland than Ivan Hlinka?

Also, as I said, Kupari and Kotkaniemi recently both participated in Ivan Hlinka after participating at u18s the season before.

The Finnish federation doesn't care about training tournament prestige, their goal is to first build the best possible team for the U-20 WJC and after that the best team for the U-18 WJC. If the underage kids are talented enough, they will be tried out with the older age group first. If they can hang with them, they won't play for the younger age group until after the U-20 WJC. It's been like that for a long time.

Neither were penciled in as potential key players in the U-20 team.

 

[cg98]

You really think that a random u20 tournament in Canada is more prestigeous in Finland than Ivan Hlinka?

Also, as I said, Kupari and Kotkaniemi recently both participated in Ivan Hlinka after participating at u18s the season before.

To answer that ridiculous question, yes. The World Juniors is more prestigious than the Ivan Hlinka tournament.

 

[jj cale]

You really think that a random u20 tournament in Canada is more prestigeous in Finland than Ivan Hlinka?

Of course it is, by a lot.

 

[FinPanda]

The Finnish federation doesn't care about training tournament prestige, their goal is to first build the best possible team for the U-20 WJC and after that the best team for the U-18 WJC. If the underage kids are talented enough, they will be tried out with the older age group first. If they can hang with them, they won't play for the younger age group until after the U-20 WJC. It's been like that for a long time.

Neither were penciled in as potential key players in the U-20 team.

This so much. Nice to see someone write my thoughts to words.

Thanks.

You really think that a random u20 tournament in Canada is more prestigeous in Finland than Ivan Hlinka?

Also, as I said, Kupari and Kotkaniemi recently both participated in Ivan Hlinka after participating at u18s the season before.

Yes.

Kupari and Kotkaniemi weren't good enough for U20 at that point. Kakko is in a different situation.

 

[jj cale]

What number is Kotkaniemi? As a Habs fan he is the guy I am zooming in on for this match today.

Scouting time.

 

[ijuka]

What number is Kotkaniemi? As a Habs fan he is the guy I am zooming in on for this match today.

Scouting time.

He's #9, playing with #33 Kaapo Kakko and #20 Linus Nyman.


And yes, I'm assuming you posted this on the wrong thread because he won't play at Hlinka.

 

[jj cale]

He's #9, playing with #33 Kaapo Kakko and #20 Linus Nyman.

Thanks!!

 

[Yakushev72]

Adding Gretzky name there is dehonesting. So Stupid, can't get over it

It has been mostly a Canadian tournament for some time. For Europeans, it is an exhibition tournament in the middle of the summer of no particular import. For Canadians, the timing has always allowed Canada to send their best players, and they have always more or less had easy victories to celebrate. The Czechs would have let the tournament go, so Canada picked it up. It is one of the biggest events on the Canadian calendar.

 

[Yakushev72]

But Canada hockey adds money, lots of money. Check for example Official Website of the Hlinka Gretzky Cup (official website) ... when it was here in CZE and SVK it was only dream to have some some official web. I think it's fair to have it one year at home and one year in NA.

I agree Gretzky Hlinka cup is silly name. It should be something neutral like "Young stars hockey games or tourney" with groups called Hlinka group and Gretzky group and and the winner is gonna get Hlinka cup.

Who really cares how much money it makes? Do you care if Rene Fasel owns 46 islands in the Mediterranean, or 47?

 

[VictorLustig]

Who really cares how much money it makes? Do you care if Rene Fasel owns 46 islands in the Mediterranean, or 47?

This is not an IIHF sanctioned event.

 

[ZEBROA]

Uuuuugly name. Hlinka Gretzky what the??? Sad for Europeans not being able to follow it as easy. Can we follow it at all?
Is there anywere you could resee ( dont remember the word) the games.