Highest scoring duos in NHL history

[matnor]

There was a thread not too long ago here discussing primary assists vs secondary. Someone had complained that Gretzky had more 2ndary assists than anyone else in history, which shouldn't be shocking considering he also has more primary assists than anyone else in history. That's what happens when you have more assists than anyone else has points. However, the breakdown also showed that Gretzky had the highest % of primary assists of anyone in history as well, something I found rather surprising. I'm sure there was a cut off - like min 300 assists or something so we didn't have some random clown who played like 3 games ever and had 1 assist total as the leader.

Yep, it's this thread: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=821020

 

[matnor]

No mention of Lemieux/Stevens in the thread? I see they'd be omitted from the results just as Hull/Oates were, but thought someone would mention.

Lemieux: 69 goals
Stevens: 55 goals
Tocchet: 48 goals

It's possible Lemieux/Stevens and Lemieux/Tocchet would both crack the list for that year. Heck, even Lemieux/Francis or Lemieux/Jagr, potentially.

For '84-'85 and '85-'86 I'd guess you could probably find permutations of Gretzky/Coffey, Kurri/Coffey and Gretzky/Anderson that would hit this list as well. Same go for some of the other tandems listed.

I think such analysis would diminish how remarkable the accomplishment of the Sedins appears, but there's no doubt they deserve credit in this category.

They are included in the ranking, only Gretzky - Coffey made the top-30. Anderson played primarily with Messier and not Gretzky.

 

[skywarp75]

the sedins will be #1 on the duo list by the time theyre done, but of course they will play entire career together, unlike the other duos.

 

[tony d]

Good list, no surprise to see Gretzky and Kurri at the top.

 

[livewell68]

Where are Lemieux and Jagr on this list?

Their 1995-96, 1996-97 and 2000-01 seasons have to be up there.

 

[BraveCanadian]

They are included in the ranking, only Gretzky - Coffey made the top-30. Anderson played primarily with Messier and not Gretzky.

Matnor do you have the games played together as well? Might be interesting to see that along with the goals/points

Particularly for duos that played before the somewhat standard 80ish game season we've had for the last few decades

 

[Wiesel]

How about Kariya/Selanne?

 

[DanZ]

Adjust it for era, and the Sedins are much higher

 

[gifted88]

How about Kariya/Selanne?

I thought the same thing. Wonder where they rank.

Also Sakic - Hejduk

 

[Murky]

Nice summaries. One of my greatest regrets was that I never saw Trottier and Bossy together even if I had a few chances. Youth is not the only thing wasted on the young it seems.

As for Gretzky and Kurri whom I saw a lot you are really looking at the wrong statistics. This duo was of course almost unstoppable in the regular season but the post season - oh baby.

 

[matnor]

Where are Lemieux and Jagr on this list?

Their 1995-96, 1996-97 and 2000-01 seasons have to be up there.

Rank | Duo | Season | Goals
16375 | Jaromir Jagr - Mario Lemieux | 90/91 | 7
6389 | Jaromir Jagr - Mario Lemieux | 93/94 | 13
158 | Jaromir Jagr - Mario Lemieux | 95/96 | 48
120 | Jaromir Jagr - Mario Lemieux | 96/97 | 51
106 | Jaromir Jagr - Mario Lemieux | 00/01 | 53
----- | ---------------------------- | ------------ | ---
91 | Jaromir Jagr - Mario Lemieux | 90/91 - 00/01 | 172

Basically, they played together at even strength in 96/97 and 00/01 but very little otherwise. For instance, in 95/96 when Jagr had 149 points and Lemieux 161 they only had 12 ES points together (plus minus a couple of points due to incomplete data).

 

[matnor]

Matnor do you have the games played together as well? Might be interesting to see that along with the goals/points

Particularly for duos that played before the somewhat standard 80ish game season we've had for the last few decades

It would be interesting but unfortunately I don't have that data.

 

[matnor]

How about Kariya/Selanne?

Rank | Duo | Season | Goals
3894 | Paul Kariya - Teemu Selanne | 95/96 | 17
46 | Paul Kariya - Teemu Selanne | 96/97 | 59
3068 | Paul Kariya - Teemu Selanne | 97/98 | 19
61 | Paul Kariya - Teemu Selanne | 98/99 | 57
120 | Paul Kariya - Teemu Selanne | 99/00 | 51
1337 | Paul Kariya - Teemu Selanne | 00/01 | 27
25043 | Paul Kariya - Teemu Selanne | 03/04 | 5
----- | ---------------------------- | ------------| ---
35 | Paul Kariya - Teemu Selanne | 95/96 - 03/04 | 235

It should be noted that data from the mid-90s is so-so. Particularly for Selänne's 95/96 season which only contain 96 out of Selänne's actual 108 points.

 

[matnor]

I thought the same thing. Wonder where they rank.

Also Sakic - Hejduk

Rank | Duo | Season | Goals
1222 | Milan Hejduk - Joe Sakic | 98/99 | 28
1222 | Milan Hejduk - Joe Sakic | 99/00 | 28
158 | Milan Hejduk - Joe Sakic | 00/01 | 48
1337 | Milan Hejduk - Joe Sakic | 01/02 | 27
3068 | Milan Hejduk - Joe Sakic | 02/03 | 19
1832 | Milan Hejduk - Joe Sakic | 03/04 | 24
825 | Milan Hejduk - Joe Sakic | 05/06 | 32
4971 | Milan Hejduk - Joe Sakic | 06/07 | 15
20045 | Milan Hejduk - Joe Sakic | 07/08 | 6
25043 | Milan Hejduk - Joe Sakic | 08/09 | 5
----- | ---------------------------- | ------------ | ---
38 | Milan Hejduk - Joe Sakic | 98/99 - 08/09 | 232

 

[matnor]

Very interesting list and work.

Can you discriminate for goal and primary assists?
Let's say compare how many goals Kurri scored with a Gretzky primary assist, a Gretzky secondary assist and total?

In theory I could do that but it would require some work and I don't have that data readily available. But as has been said before, Gretzky has the highest share of primary assists for the years there are data which might tell you something.

 

[redbull]

In theory I could do that but it would require some work and I don't have that data readily available. But as has been said before, Gretzky has the highest share of primary assists for the years there are data which might tell you something.

yup. tells me that he was an incredible passer, eyes behind his head, created offense from nothing, made previously mediocre players dangerous when they were on the ice at the same time.

There ARE statistics that CLEARLY reflect what the eyes see. This might be one of them.

 

[Pear Juice]

Matnor do you have the games played together as well? Might be interesting to see that along with the goals/points

Particularly for duos that played before the somewhat standard 80ish game season we've had for the last few decades

Games played together seems nearly irrelevant as this is so extremely related to who's on the ice at the same time. What's really interesting is time on ice together, which obviously is impossible to compile for such a large period of time.

 

[lextune]

Hull & Oates should not be omitted, though. In 1990/1991, they scored 111 goals together (86+25), which would top the per year-ranking.

Gruß,
BSHH

It was really the only "full" (Oates with only 61 games) season they played together too.

In 89/90 Brett played almost exclusively with Peter Zezel, and in 91/92 Oates was traded away after 54 games.

 

[steve141]

I have a request: Is it possible to list stats for Lidstrom & Holmstrom, especially power play goals. They've been playing together for almost fifteen years now and still spend 10-20 minutes after every practice practicing shot-tipping and rebound-retrieving. That's a pretty unique situation in today's NHL.

Neither are as offensively gifted as the other duos listed in the thread, but it would be interesting to get an idea of how big a part this cooperation represents in their total production.

 

[matnor]

I have a request: Is it possible to list stats for Lidstrom & Holmstrom, especially power play goals. They've been playing together for almost fifteen years now and still spend 10-20 minutes after every practice practicing shot-tipping and rebound-retrieving. That's a pretty unique situation in today's NHL.

Neither are as offensively gifted as the other duos listed in the thread, but it would be interesting to get an idea of how big a part this cooperation represents in their total production.

This is for all goals:

Rank | Duo | Season | Goals
88302 | Tomas Holmstrom - Nicklas Lidstrom | 96/97| 1
88302 | Tomas Holmstrom - Nicklas Lidstrom | 97/98| 1
16375 | Tomas Holmstrom - Nicklas Lidstrom | 98/99| 7
7352 | Tomas Holmstrom - Nicklas Lidstrom | 99/00 | 12
8498 | Tomas Holmstrom - Nicklas Lidstrom | 00/01 | 11
25043 | Tomas Holmstrom - Nicklas Lidstrom | 01/02 | 5
13621 | Tomas Holmstrom - Nicklas Lidstrom | 02/03 | 8
25043 | Tomas Holmstrom - Nicklas Lidstrom | 03/04 | 5
3068 | Tomas Holmstrom - Nicklas Lidstrom | 05/06 | 19
4393 | Tomas Holmstrom - Nicklas Lidstrom | 06/07 | 16
7352 | Tomas Holmstrom - Nicklas Lidstrom | 07/08 | 12
20045 | Tomas Holmstrom - Nicklas Lidstrom | 08/09| 6
8498 | Tomas Holmstrom - Nicklas Lidstrom | 09/10| 11
9865 | Tomas Holmstrom - Nicklas Lidstrom | 10/11| 10
----- | -----------------------------------| ------------| ---
186 | Tomas Holmstrom - Nicklas Lidstrom | 96/97 - 10/11 | 124

And this is only for PP goals:

Rank | Duo | Season | Goals
28678 | Tomas Holmstrom - Nicklas Lidstrom | 96/97 | 1
6624 | Tomas Holmstrom - Nicklas Lidstrom | 98/99 | 5
4983 | Tomas Holmstrom - Nicklas Lidstrom | 99/00 | 6
1735 | Tomas Holmstrom - Nicklas Lidstrom | 00/01 | 10
8863 | Tomas Holmstrom - Nicklas Lidstrom | 01/02 | 4
6624 | Tomas Holmstrom - Nicklas Lidstrom | 02/03 | 5
8863 | Tomas Holmstrom - Nicklas Lidstrom | 03/04 | 4
1029 | Tomas Holmstrom - Nicklas Lidstrom | 05/06 | 12
3790 | Tomas Holmstrom - Nicklas Lidstrom | 06/07 | 7
2901 | Tomas Holmstrom - Nicklas Lidstrom | 07/08 | 8
12240 | Tomas Holmstrom - Nicklas Lidstrom | 08/09 | 3
2901 | Tomas Holmstrom - Nicklas Lidstrom | 09/10 | 8
1735 | Tomas Holmstrom - Nicklas Lidstrom | 10/11 | 10
----- | -----------------------------------| ------------| ---
41 | Tomas Holmstrom - Nicklas Lidstrom | 96/97 - 10/11 | 83

So, they are 41st all time in PP goals together. Perhaps surprising is that they share that spot with Alfredsson and Redden. Also, Lidström has a higher amount of PP goals with Shanahan (104), Yzerman (93) and Datsyuk (90). Still a high number though.

 

[matnor]

I have updated the data with the latest seasons as well as all missing seasons between 87/88 and 92/93 together which some minor corrections. This means the data now covers all seasons from 52/53 to the latest one. The following is the updated list:

Rank | Duo | Seasons | Goals | Change
1 | Wayne Gretzky - Jari Kurri | 80/81 - 95/96 | 757 | +110
2 | Mike Bossy - Bryan Trottier | 77/78 - 86/87 | 612
3 | Alex Delvecchio - Gordie Howe | 52/53 - 70/71 | 555
4 | Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin | 00/01 - 12/13 | 543 | +83
5 | Marcel Dionne - Dave Taylor | 77/78 - 86/87 | 460
6 | Rod Gilbert - Jean Ratelle | 62/63 - 75/76 | 452
7 | Phil Esposito - Ken Hodge | 65/66 - 77/78 | 448
8 | Glenn Anderson - Mark Messier | 80/81 - 93/94 | 399 | +120
9 | Steve Larmer - Denis Savard | 82/83 - 89/90 | 391 | +139
10 | Bernie Federko - Brian Sutter | 76/77 - 87/88 | 375 | +9
11 | Guy Lafleur - Steve Shutt | 72/73 - 84/85 | 361
12 | Anton Stastny - Peter Stastny | 80/81 - 88/89 | 359 | +58
13 | Paul Coffey - Wayne Gretzky | 80/81 - 92/93 | 347 | +6
14 | Stan Mikita - Kenny Wharram | 59/60 - 68/69 | 333
15 | Bill Barber - Bobby Clarke | 72/73 - 83/84 | 329
16 | Rick Martin - Gilbert Perreault | 71/72 - 80/81 | 315
17 | Jean Beliveau - Bernie Geoffrion | 53/54 - 63/64 | 312
18 | Vincent Lecavalier - Martin St. Louis | 00/01 - 12/13 | 311 | +41
19 | Phil Esposito - Bobby Orr | 67/68 - 74/75 | 307
20 | Dale Hawerchuk - Paul MacLean | 81/82 - 87/88 | 297 | +45
21 | Bobby Clarke - Reggie Leach | 74/75 - 81/82 | 289
22 | Vic Hadfield - Jean Ratelle | 64/65 - 73/74 | 284
23 | Cliff Koroll - Stan Mikita | 69/70 - 79/80 | 281
24 | Marcel Dionne - Charlie Simmer | 78/79 - 84/85 | 273
25 | Gilbert Perreault - Rene Robert | 71/72 - 78/79 | 272
26 | Rod Gilbert - Vic Hadfield | 62/63 - 73/74 | 271
26 | Ron Francis - Jaromir Jagr | 90/91 - 97/98 | 271 | +42
28 | Andy Bathgate - Dean Prentice | 52/53 - 70/71 | 268
29 | Don Luce - Craig Ramsay | 71/72 - 80/81 | 262
30 | Clark Gillies - Bryan Trottier | 75/76 - 85/86 | 261

With the updated data Gretzky-Kurri has 110 extra "duo points" and are the clear cut number one duo. The Sedin twins are closing in on Delvecchio-Howe and Bossy-Trottier and could possibly catch up to Gretzky-Kurri if they play long enough. With the updated data Larmer-Savard are now in the top 10.

The top-30 single seasons are listed below:

Rank | Duo | Seasons | Goals
1 | Wayne Gretzky - Jari Kurri | 84/85 | 109
2 | Wayne Gretzky - Jari Kurri | 85/86 | 108
3 | Mike Bossy - Bryan Trottier | 81/82 | 92
4 | Wayne Gretzky - Jari Kurri | 83/84 | 90
5 | Wayne Gretzky - Jari Kurri | 82/83 | 89
6 | Wayne Gretzky - Jari Kurri | 86/87 | 79
7 | Mike Bossy - Bryan Trottier | 78/79 | 77
8 | Pat LaFontaine - Alexander Mogilny | 92/93 | 76
9 | Wayne Gretzky - Blair MacDonald | 79/80 | 75
9 | Paul Coffey - Wayne Gretzky | 85/86 | 75
9 | Phil Esposito - Ken Hodge | 70/71 | 75
12 | Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin | 10/11 | 73
13 | Mike Bossy - Bryan Trottier | 83/84 | 72
14 | Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin | 09/10 | 71
15 | Rob Brown - Mario Lemieux | 88/89 | 70
15 | Guy Lafleur - Steve Shutt | 76/77 | 70
17 | Wayne Gretzky - Tomas Sandstrom | 90/91 | 69
17 | Ron Francis - Jaromir Jagr | 95/96 | 69
17 | Todd Bertuzzi - Markus Naslund | 02/03 | 69
20 | Mike Bossy - Bryan Trottier | 80/81 | 68
21 | Phil Esposito - Ken Hodge | 73/74 | 67
21 | Rick Middleton - Barry Pederson | 83/84 | 67
21 | Marcel Dionne - Dave Taylor | 78/79 | 67
24 | Paul Coffey - Mario Lemieux | 88/89 | 66
24 | Dale Hawerchuk - Paul MacLean | 84/85 | 66
24 | Mike Bossy - Bryan Trottier | 82/83 | 66
27 | Glen Murray - Joe Thornton | 02/03 | 65
27 | Marcel Dionne - Dave Taylor | 81/82 | 65
27 | Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin | 06/07 | 65
27 | Phil Esposito - Ken Hodge | 68/69 | 65
27 | Paul Coffey - Wayne Gretzky | 84/85 | 65

The changes from the OP is bolded. The new editions are Lafontaine-Mogilny (92/93), Brown-Lemieux (88/89), Francis-Jagr (95/96) and Coffey-Lemieux (88/89). Gretzky-Kurri (85/86) has been updated to include two more extra goals.

 

[matnor]

The following is a list of active duos with at least 100 "duo points" who played with each other last season. Those who are not scheduled to play together next year are listed in italics.

Rank | Duo | Seasons | Goals
4 | Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin | 00/01 - 12/13 | 543
18 | Vincent Lecavalier - Martin St. Louis | 00/01 - 12/13 | 311
34 | Ryan Getzlaf - Corey Perry | 05/06 - 12/13 | 248
38 | Pavel Datsyuk - Henrik Zetterberg | 02/03 - 12/13 | 243
51 | Nicklas Backstrom - Alex Ovechkin | 07/08 - 12/13 | 224
58 | Patrick Marleau - Joe Thornton | 05/06 - 12/13 | 216
59 | Daniel Alfredsson - Jason Spezza | 02/03 - 12/13 | 215
69 | Steven Stamkos - Martin St. Louis | 08/09 - 12/13 | 204
75 | Sidney Crosby - Evgeni Malkin | 06/07 - 12/13 | 198
120 | Dustin Brown - Anze Kopitar | 06/07 - 12/13 | 164
130 | Patrick Kane - Jonathan Toews | 07/08 - 12/13 | 159
178 | Jarome Iginla - Alex Tanguay | 06/07 - 12/13 | 138 213 | Milan Hejduk - Paul Stastny | 06/07 - 12/13 | 130
229 | Alexandre Burrows - Henrik Sedin | 05/06 - 12/13 | 127
229 | Ales Hemsky - Shawn Horcoff | 02/03 - 12/13 | 127 233 | Jason Pominville - Thomas Vanek | 05/06 - 12/13 | 126
238 | Matt Moulson - John Tavares | 09/10 - 12/13 | 124
265 | Patrick Kane - Patrick Sharp | 07/08 - 12/13 | 118
288 | Alexandre Burrows - Daniel Sedin | 07/08 - 12/13 | 114
311 | David Krejci - Milan Lucic | 07/08 - 12/13 | 109
311 | Ryan Getzlaf - Teemu Selanne | 05/06 - 12/13 | 109
321 | Mike Green - Alex Ovechkin | 05/06 - 12/13 | 108

 

[matnor]

Finally, here are the season-by-season leaders:

Duo | Season | Goals
Gordie Howe - Ted Lindsay | 52/53 | 47
Gordie Howe - Ted Lindsay | 53/54 | 41
Jean Beliveau - Bernie Geoffrion | 54/55 | 42
Jean Beliveau - Bert Olmstead | 55/56 | 44
Gordie Howe - Ted Lindsay | 56/57 | 58
Dickie Moore - Henri Richard | 57/58 | 51
Jean Beliveau - Dickie Moore | 58/59 | 49
Bronco Horvath - Vic Stasiuk | 59/60 | 49
Jean Beliveau - Bernie Geoffrion | 60/61 | 63
Andy Bathgate - Dean Prentice | 61/62 | 44
Alex Delvecchio - Gordie Howe | 61/62 | 44
John Bucyk - Murray Oliver | 62/63 | 42
Gordie Howe - Parker MacDonald | 62/63 | 42
Stan Mikita - Kenny Wharram | 63/64 | 47
Alex Delvecchio - Gordie Howe | 64/65 | 44
Alex Delvecchio - Gordie Howe | 65/66 | 44
Stan Mikita - Doug Mohns | 66/67 | 43
Stan Mikita - Kenny Wharram | 66/67 | 43
Rod Gilbert - Jean Ratelle | 67/68 | 52
Phil Esposito - Ken Hodge | 68/69 | 65
Dave Balon - Walt Tkaczuk | 69/70 | 54
Phil Esposito - Ken Hodge | 70/71 | 75
Rod Gilbert - Jean Ratelle | 71/72 | 60
Vic Hadfield - Jean Ratelle | 71/72 | 60
Rod Gilbert - Jean Ratelle | 72/73 | 59
Phil Esposito - Ken Hodge | 73/74 | 67
Rod Gilbert - Jean Ratelle | 74/75 | 59
Syl Apps - Jean Pronovost | 75/76 | 59
Guy Lafleur - Steve Shutt | 76/77 | 70
Mike Bossy - Bryan Trottier | 77/78 | 62
Mike Bossy - Bryan Trottier | 78/79 | 77
Wayne Gretzky - Blair MacDonald | 79/80 | 75
Mike Bossy - Bryan Trottier | 80/81 | 68
Mike Bossy - Bryan Trottier | 81/82 | 92
Wayne Gretzky - Jari Kurri | 82/83 | 89
Wayne Gretzky - Jari Kurri | 83/84 | 90
Wayne Gretzky - Jari Kurri | 84/85 | 109
Wayne Gretzky - Jari Kurri | 85/86 | 108
Wayne Gretzky - Jari Kurri | 86/87 | 79
Steve Larmer - Denis Savard | 87/88 | 64
Rob Brown - Mario Lemieux | 88/89 | 70
Gary Leeman - Ed Olczyk | 89/90 | 59
Wayne Gretzky - Tomas Sandstrom | 90/91 | 69
Mario Lemieux - Kevin Stevens | 91/92 | 61
Pat LaFontaine - Alexander Mogilny | 92/93 | 76
Dave Andreychuk - Doug Gilmour | 93/94 | 61
Ron Francis - Jaromir Jagr | 94/95 | 41
Ron Francis - Jaromir Jagr | 95/96 | 69
Paul Kariya - Teemu Selanne | 96/97 | 61
Ron Francis - Jaromir Jagr | 97/98 | 64
John LeClair - Eric Lindros | 98/99 | 58
Paul Kariya - Teemu Selanne | 99/00 | 51
Jaromir Jagr - Mario Lemieux | 00/01 | 53
Craig Conroy - Jarome Iginla | 01/02 | 46
Todd Bertuzzi - Markus Naslund | 02/03 | 69
Patrik Elias - Scott Gomez | 03/04 | 45
Jonathan Cheechoo - Joe Thornton | 05/06 | 57
Dany Heatley - Jason Spezza | 05/06 | 57
Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin | 06/07 | 65
Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin | 07/08 | 53
Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin | 08/09 | 58
Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin | 09/10 | 71
Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin | 10/11 | 73
Evgeni Malkin - James Neal | 11/12 | 60
Sidney Crosby - Chris Kunitz | 12/13 | 32
Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin | 12/13 | 32

 

[alko]

And what about Peter Stastny - Michel Goulet in Quebec?

 

[matnor]

And what about Peter Stastny - Michel Goulet in Quebec?

Here they are:

Rank | Duo |Season | Goals
6760 | Michel Goulet - Peter Stastny | 80/81 | 14
19680 | Michel Goulet - Peter Stastny | 81/82 | 7
4180 | Michel Goulet - Peter Stastny | 82/83 | 18
1215 | Michel Goulet - Peter Stastny | 83/84 | 30
2471 | Michel Goulet - Peter Stastny | 84/85 | 23
660 | Michel Goulet - Peter Stastny | 85/86 | 36
2222 | Michel Goulet - Peter Stastny | 86/87 | 24
134 | Michel Goulet - Peter Stastny | 87/88 | 52
3725 | Michel Goulet - Peter Stastny | 88/89 | 19
16389 | Michel Goulet - Peter Stastny | 89/90 | 8
----- | ----------------------------- |------------ | ---
47 | Michel Goulet - Peter Stastny | 80/81 - 89/90 | 231