HHOF - should Cups won as a backup goalie be considered?

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So say a goalie like Roberto Luongo, who is on the cusp of hall of fame, kind of 50-50. Would he "winning" a cup as a back up be enough to vault him in (mind you in this debate he has no cup). Or would it still not be enough, because he hadnt led the team to the cup? Me and a friend disagreed on it curious to hear all y'alls thoughts.
 

Diddy

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Id put him in if he won the cup. Even if he doesn't he's pretty close so it is putting him above the line for me.
 

Doctor No

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Cups won as the backup (presumably where their play in the playoffs was essentially nil) are irrelevant to HHOF consideration in my opinion.
 

Bear of Bad News

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I changed your thread title to reflect something a bit less vague.

Okay, a lot less vague.
 

Era of Sanity

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If they don't play in the playoffs why would it count. HHOF does not factor in how good of a spectator you are.
 

ClydeLee

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I don't see it pushing a "hall of very good" player into the Hall. Now if that's all Lou is, is still a question for some people to bicker out.

But I don't see it being significant for a player taking a boost. For instance, Timonen isn't being boosted in some evaluating HOF credential way because he won the cup as a 6minute per game player.
 

Day of the Duck

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I don't think so. I'd imagine having a cup on your resume under any circumstance is better than not having one, but having one while not being a crucial piece of a cup run isn't going to get anyone over the hump.
 

JackSlater

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Of course not. Entry to the Hall of Fame should be based on a player's contributions, not just check marks on their resume. It would have some value I suppose if the player was the backup in a situation where he split a significant amount of time with the starter.
 

reckoning

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Whenever somebody tries to make a HHOF case for Andy Moog, it will always mention that he was a "3-time Stanley Cup winner". It sounds impressive, but it won't mention that in the '85 playoffs he only played 20 minutes. Or that in the '87 playoffs he only played 2 games (with a .784 save percentage).
 

mouser

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Interesting idea, that ought to be enough to easily get Charlie Hodge into the HHOF. Getting your name on the Cup five times as a goalie is pretty impressive.
 

Voight

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Yes and no.

For a really good goalie like Lu yes, because he's been robbed of two Vezinas so at least he'd have some sort of hardware. But if we are debating Jonathan Berniers HHOF case in 25 years then no.
 

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