Prospect Info: HFRedWings Midseason Prospect Rankings #2

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

Rankings:
1. Anthony Mantha - 76.25%

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Mantha runs away with the first one, now I imagine that it will come down between AA and Svechnikov.

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[BinCookin]

Supermantha?

How about Tony Manthana

 

[HisNoodliness]

I went with Svech because I like his potential but I'm sure AA will skate away with this one faster than from a defenseman when AA's on a breakaway. Both are obviously great.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Svechnikov, I really like a lot about his game. If his skating improves we have something great there in my opinion. Very physical player to go along with all of that skill.

 

[sarcastro]

I would have voted Svechy if he could skate like AA. Or if it were close. Reports that he needs to improve his skating are very troublesome to me, as it's almost impossible for a non-power winger to be a successful sniper in the NHL without elite speed.

AA's hands looks like they're almost as slick as Svechy, and he's got amazing wheels to go with them.

 

[Frk It]

I would have voted Svechy if he could skate like AA. Or if it were close. Reports that he needs to improve his skating are very troublesome to me, as it's almost impossible for a non-power winger to be a successful sniper in the NHL without elite speed.

AA's hands looks like they're almost as slick as Svechy, and he's got amazing wheels to go with them.

Svechnikov is very much a power winger, IMO.

 

[Frk It]

Voted for Arhanasiou.

If we are doing adds, add De Haas.

 

[GoAwayDanCleary]

Greek Lightning

 

[SpookyTsuki]

Aa easy: he should have been 1

Super mantha I like it

 

[Shaman464]

AA is the most overrated prospect in the Wings system. He hasn't shown anything more than he's going to be a slightly better Helm.

 

[Realgud]

AA is the most overrated prospect in the Wings system. He hasn't shown anything more than he's going to be a slightly better Helm.

Helm is pretty good. Would have probably been even better if he didn't have any big injuries. A better Helm is a good thing to look forward to imo.

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

This one wound up a little bit more one sided than I anticipated, I'll post the next one tomorrow.

 

[SpookyTsuki]

AA is the most overrated prospect in the Wings system. He hasn't shown anything more than he's going to be a slightly better Helm.

He has more goals then Anthony mantha and svechnikov in the nhl

I don't view better prospects as ceilings. I view it as who's better right now if we were to call up somebody

Aa
Mantha
Who knows

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

Svechnikov is very much a power winger, IMO.

Indeed. He's actually too much a power winger sometimes. He's got a real chip on his shoulder and loves to hit. Sometimes it gets him into trouble.

 

[DanZ]

AA is the most overrated prospect in the Wings system. He hasn't shown anything more than he's going to be a slightly better Helm.

So a 40-50 point defensively responsible center? Who in our system should be rated higher than him? He has one less goal in 8 less games than our supposed #1 prospect.

 

[Frk It]

AA is the most overrated prospect in the Wings system. He hasn't shown anything more than he's going to be a slightly better Helm.

This is probably the first time in like 5 years he hasn't been underrated.

 

[Pavels Dog]

"a slightly better Helm"

/Shaman464 - January 12, 2016

 

[Shaman464]

"a slightly better Helm"

/Shaman464 - January 12, 2016

Okay? Cherry picking gifs over 55 games isn't evidence of anything. His career numbers in the NHL and CHL don't differ drastically from Helm's. And having watched Helm in the AHL he had some pretty nice moves too. As for the person who said AA has more goals than Svech and Mantha, well Luke Glendening has more career goals than Larkin therefore he's better, right?

 

[Frk It]

Okay? Cherry picking gifs over 55 games isn't evidence of anything. His career numbers in the NHL and CHL don't differ drastically from Helm's. And having watched Helm in the AHL he had some pretty nice moves too. As for the person who said AA has more goals than Svech and Mantha, well Luke Glendening has more career goals than Larkin therefore he's better, right?

You must be relieved he is injured. His production this year was going to sink your argument entirely.

 

[Frk It]

Tatar at age 21 = 58 pts in 76 gms for .76 ppg

Athanasiou at age 21 = 16 pts in 21 gms for .76 ppg

 

[DanZ]

Okay? Cherry picking gifs over 55 games isn't evidence of anything. His career numbers in the NHL and CHL don't differ drastically from Helm's. And having watched Helm in the AHL he had some pretty nice moves too. As for the person who said AA has more goals than Svech and Mantha, well Luke Glendening has more career goals than Larkin therefore he's better, right?

Athanasiou has one less goal than our supposed #1 prospect in 8 less games. This season. Athanasiou has shown skill with the puck that Helm has never shown. If you disagree, feel free to cherry pick some Helm gifs. It's obvious to anyone that's seen him play.

 

[DanZ]

Tatar at age 21 = 58 pts in 76 gms for .76 ppg

Athanasiou at age 21 = 16 pts in 21 gms for .76 ppg

And that's including his putrid start where virtually the entire team couldn't buy a goal.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Okay? Cherry picking gifs over 55 games isn't evidence of anything. His career numbers in the NHL and CHL don't differ drastically from Helm's. And having watched Helm in the AHL he had some pretty nice moves too.

There's probably 20-30 highly impressive moves you could gif simply from this season+pre-season from him. Even in his short NHL time he had a few dangles. Point is he is doing things with the puck that Helm has NEVER done at any level. AA plays a skill game, he is not a Darren Helm just because he's fast. Helm doesn't challenge d-men 1-on-1 if he can't beat them with speed. AA does. AA has vision, he can make passing plays. Helm can't.

Tatar at age 21 = 58 pts in 76 gms for .76 ppg

Athanasiou at age 21 = 16 pts in 21 gms for .76 ppg

Well really, Tatar is just a slower Helm.

 

[izlez]

I love that on these boards, "a better version of helm" is some huge insult and means he's hugely overrated. Reality is, if he turns into a better Helm, he should be #2 on the list.

It's like everyone expects half of these guys to turn into sure fire hall of famers, but in reality most of them won't sniff the nhl, much less have full 15 year careers like Helm will

 

[Pavels Dog]

I love that on these boards, "a better version of helm" is some huge insult and means he's hugely overrated. Reality is, if he turns into a better Helm, he should be #2 on the list.

It's like everyone expects half of these guys to turn into sure fire hall of famers, but in reality most of them won't sniff the nhl, much less have full 15 year careers like Helm will

Yeah I agree with this too, "a better Helm" is a damn fine player. To me it's just lazy to use that comparison all the time. Larkin has also had the "Helm with hands" moniker. AA and Helm don't really play hockey the same way, the only thing they really have in common is speed.