Prospect Info: HFOil Top 20 Oilers Prospects 2018 (Poll #7)

[McDNicks17]

Trust me I love Maksimov and I think if all goes right (unlikely) we’ve got the second coming of Neal on our hands. Middle ground I think is a Perron type, low end is Pouliot.

He’s got the shot, McLeod’s got the wheels. I think in today’s game the skating ability is more important.

I feel like skating is getting a bit overrated nowadays. It's starting to remind me of how size was seen before. Lots of great players with size, so GMs start to think that every player with size will be great.

To me, great skating can only take the player as far as the rest of the package will allow him. I think McLeod is a guy who has some major issues(that aren't necessarily too hard to fix) in that package that, if not corrected, will limit him to a guy who skates around really fast, doesn't accomplish much and frustrates you to no end.

Maksimov doesn't have those issues(physicality, consistency, board work, work ethic) and I'd even probably call them strengths. That's why I think Maksimov has the higher floor while having basically the same kind of upside.

 

[MoneyGuy]

Skating isn’t overrated. Mediocre skating can be overcome with other skills but it’s really important.

 

[McNuge]

Skating isn’t overrated. Mediocre skating can be overcome with other skills but it’s really important.

I think he is more referring to people skating is the be all and end all nowa days. There are plenty of fantastic and fast skaters in the NHL who have other attributes that are below average so it makes them pretty bad players. While I agree that skating is incredibly important today more so than 5-6 years ago, it is a bit overrated. People seem to think if a player can't skate like McDavid he will suck (a bit over dramatic but still holds true to most of these boards).

 

[CupofOil]

Im going with Marody. I think he could surprise some people.

I'm the opposite. I think he's being a bit overhyped and I don't see him getting more than a cup of coffee in the NHL. He's a poor mans' Purcell IMO, has some skill but I don't see much desire in his game.

He just kind of plods around the ice looking to pounce on mistakes, don't think that'll work in the NHL. Has some sneaky good skill though, good vision. I could see him being the type of player that becomes a great AHLer but never amounts to much in the NHL, tweener.

 

[780il]

I'm the opposite. I think he's being a bit overhyped and I don't see him getting more than a cup of coffee in the NHL. He's a poor mans' Purcell IMO, has some skill but I don't see much desire in his game.

He just kind of plods around the ice looking to pounce on mistakes, don't think that'll work in the NHL. Has some sneaky good skill though, good vision. I could see him being the type of player that becomes a great AHLer but never amounts to much in the NHL, tweener.

Fair, let's see what happens this year

 

[Jumptheshark]

I'm the opposite. I think he's being a bit overhyped and I don't see him getting more than a cup of coffee in the NHL. He's a poor mans' Purcell IMO, has some skill but I don't see much desire in his game.

He just kind of plods around the ice looking to pounce on mistakes, don't think that'll work in the NHL. Has some sneaky good skill though, good vision. I could see him being the type of player that becomes a great AHLer but never amounts to much in the NHL, tweener.

While I have no problem with Marody. I still believe his trade and the signing of a few other uni guys is Chia Pet and Co telling us that the depth of the organisation is not as deep as some would like to believe

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

I dont understand why the flyers traded marody.

When did he sign?

Was he not signing with philly?

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I dont understand why the flyers traded marody.

When did he sign?

Was he not signing with philly?

The Flyers have one of the best prospect pools in the league and in the last 4 years they drafted 9 more forwards in the first three rounds (at the time they dealt Marody they knew they had two firsts going into this draft)

Konecny (Marody’s Draft) Rubstov/Laberge/Allison/Twarynski (2016) Patrick/Frost (2017) Farabee/O’Brien (2018)

Safe to say they felt they had the internal depth to absorb his loss and turn a 6th into a 3rd.

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

The Flyers have one of the best prospect pools in the league and in the last 4 years they drafted 9 more forwards in the first three rounds (at the time they dealt Marody they knew they had two firsts going into this draft)

Konecny (Marody’s Draft) Rubstov/Laberge/Allison/Twarynski (2016) Patrick/Frost (2017) Farabee/O’Brien (2018)

Safe to say they felt they had the internal depth to absorb his loss and turn a 6th into a 3rd.

And a 3rd is likely the most you may get but arguably hes a 2nd rounder in a redraft.

But you answered none of my questions....... i dig your response regardless i guess.

 

[belair]

I'm quite high on Morody, but Caleb Jones is still in that second pairing upside range so I'll have to go with him. I think he might be a decent trade chip for us this season if he picks up his game at the AHL level.

 

[joestevens29]

I don’t think I’ll ever vote for a goalie. So much up and done

Brossoit 6
Ellis 11
Wells 9
Skinner 18

Funny what one year does

 

[Aerrol]

Skating isn’t overrated. Mediocre skating can be overcome with other skills but it’s really important.

Agreed. A prime example of how amazing skating can turn forgettable skills into a steady NHLer is Carl Hagelin. He can't shoot, stick handle, or pass especially well, his defensive positioning isn't great, but the man can fly and that's earned him a steady middle 6 role on the Pens.

 

[ConnorMcNugesaitl]

Lagesson
Skinner
Rodrigue
Marody
Jones
Safin
Berglund

Shouldn't the best goalie from this years draft make our top 10?

He was listed as the the top north American goalie.

I don't think he was the top ranked goalie.

 

[McDNicks17]

He was listed as the the top north American goalie.

I don't think he was the top ranked goalie.

I believe he was on McKenzie's list.

 

[aspin3]

Wow...............unbelievable that Samorukov only has 2 votes. One from me. I think you guys need to look into him a bit more. Check out the shift by shift videos posted on here. By all reports he was a stud at the summer rookie camp. He is big, skates well, and solid defensively. I think after the rookie camp we will have at least another 30% of you talking all about Dimitri.

 

[McMozesmadness]

Wow...............unbelievable that Samorukov only has 2 votes. One from me. I think you guys need to look into him a bit more. Check out the shift by shift videos posted on here. By all reports he was a stud at the summer rookie camp. He is big, skates well, and solid defensively. I think after the rookie camp we will have at least another 30% of you talking all about Dimitri.

Love Samorukov, looked outstanding in his time with the Condors late in the year. Needs to bring that level of play consistently.

He's 9th on my list (7th at this time last year). Which is awesome. Speaks to the depth we now have.

I can't vote for him over Jones.

 

[lakai17]

I'm quite high on Morody, but Caleb Jones is still in that second pairing upside range so I'll have to go with him. I think he might be a decent trade chip for us this season if he picks up his game at the AHL level.

Like you said second pairing upside range. I'd rather use another for a trade chip as Jones has some versatility.

 

[Hockey Nightmare]

I honestly believe that if his last name wasn't Jones, he wouldn't get nearly the same amount of hype.

 

[BarDownBobo]

I honestly believe that if his last name wasn't Jones, he wouldn't get nearly the same amount of hype.

Jones put up just under a point a game(62 in 63 games) his last year in the WHL, and was an absolute force for Team USA in winning the u20 title that year. He played a team high 36 minutes in the gold medal game. They hype has absolutely nothing to do with his name.

 

[The Nuge]

He just kind of plods around the ice looking to pounce on mistakes, don't think that'll work in the NHL

The Coyotes were pretty damn successful doing that in the NHL under Tippett. If you read the game well, it absolutely can work

 

[lakai17]

Interested to see what old Brock has to say on McLeod and Maksimov. Bouchard too.

https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/31-teams-in-31-days-ohl-prospect-reviews.2518325/

We're up.

 

[Draiskull]

Trust me I love Maksimov and I think if all goes right (unlikely) we’ve got the second coming of Neal on our hands. Middle ground I think is a Perron type, low end is Pouliot.

He’s got the shot, McLeod’s got the wheels. I think in today’s game the skating ability is more important.

No one on our team has the shot. so someone who can snipe would be a welcome addition.
We have plenty of Pontus Abergs now ie guys who could skate.
Ryan friggin Nugent Hopkins probably is the best shot on the team these days.

 

[780il]

No one on our team has the shot. so someone who can snipe would be a welcome addition.
We have plenty of Pontus Abergs now ie guys who could skate.
Ryan friggin Nugent Hopkins probably is the best shot on the team these days.

I think Draisaitl asks you wtf you're on

 

[McNuge]

I think Draisaitl asks you wtf you're on

Drai has more velocity and power on his shots but RNH is more accurate. Regardless I think McDavid has a SUPER underrated shot. He is ridiculously accurate, some of the goals he gets are just plain dumb.

 

[Draiskull]

I think Draisaitl asks you wtf you're on

yeh... Draisaitl the sniper... His shot is worse than McDavids. RNH now has a better shot than both.