HFDevils *CURRENT* Player Rankings #4

[Call Me Al]

agreed completely

 

[Billdo]

I'd like Rod Pelley and Tim Sestito added please.

 

[Stephen Gionta]

Subban should be the lone #2, with Nico at #3.

I voted Hughes for #4.

Add Simmonds/Schneider.

 

[Stephen Gionta]

The exciting part about this is that it is possible Hughes could be voted #1 on next years version of this. That is incredibly exciting to think about.

 

[Billdo]

Subban should be the lone #2, with Nico at #3.

I voted Hughes for #4.

Add Simmonds/Schneider.

I mean I get it, but voting for him already as our 4th best?

 

[severian]

I mean I get it, but voting for him already as our 4th best?

The Devils had 72 points last year. Sounds more than accurate.

 

[swissexpert]

That doesn't mean he's bad, it doesn't mean he sucks. He's a very good player. But he's not a great player, not yet anyways.

Subban is a very good player too, but he isn't great neither. People and media overrate him constantly. Not wanted in MTL, not wanted in NSH. I've seen a ton of Preds games over the last few years and PK is a spectacular player, but he isn't a reliable #1.
Especially last year, he had his brainfarts more regularly and was a liability far too many times for a Norris winner.
Thankfully, a strong Ekholm could bail him out most of the time.
It fills a huge need for the Devils so I'm fine with the aquisition.
I'm pretty sure Nico will have a better season than him though.

 

[Billdo]

The Devils had 72 points last year. Sounds more than accurate.

Right...

 

[Billdo]

Subban is a very good player too, but he isn't great neither. People and media overrate him constantly. Not wanted in MTL, not wanted in NSH. I've seen a ton of Preds games over the last few years and PK is a spectacular player, but he isn't a reliable #1.
Especially last year, he had his brainfarts more regularly and was a liability far too many times for a Norris winner.
Thankfully, a strong Ekholm could bail him out most of the time.
It fills a huge need for the Devils so I'm fine with the aquisition.
I'm pretty sure Nico will have a better season than him though.

How is that even something that can be defined? Points? Corsi?

 

[swissexpert]

How is that even something that can be defined? Points? Corsi?

I would say as in most valuable but I'm not sure what the poll is based on.
Or maybe leaguewide ranking by position..

 

[Zippy316]

Palmieri, Zajac, Severson, Hughes in that order for me.

After that, I have no idea.

Add Greene

 

[devilsblood]

I mean I get it, but voting for him already as our 4th best?

I did, I understand why people wouldn't, but I watched about 10 of his games last year, at the various levels, and ya, I think he's good enough to be voted 4th.

I think by January he could be a little higher, but that would depend on the health of Hall and Subban, as well as the maturation of Nico.

 

[Jack Be Quick]

Hall, add Zajac.

This website really need to fix it's no commas in usernames policy.

Xo!

 

[Billdo]

I would say as in most valuable but I'm not sure what the poll is based on.
Or maybe leaguewide ranking by position..

So if Nico ranks 43rd among centers and Subban ranks 45th among defenseman, you'd say Nico had the better season?

 

[Jack Be Quick]

Palmieri, Zajac, Severson, Hughes in that order for me.

After that, I have no idea.

Add Greene

Add Zajac. Always add Zajac even if he's already been included.

You know what chocolate is? It's kind of like that.

Too little? You've got a problem. Too much? Unheard of.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

It is. I love Nico and he's a fine player with #1C potential. But the way some people talk about him you'd think he's Ron Francis.

Truth is that there are a lot of 50 point centers out there and Nico still has a lot of work to do if he wants to be an elite center in this league. I think he'll get there. He's only 20 and there's still plenty of room for him to grow. But, so far, what he's shown just simply isn't up to par with the greats of the game.

That doesn't mean he's bad, it doesn't mean he sucks. He's a very good player. But he's not a great player, not yet anyways.

see this I don't agree with

Nico Hischier has been close to an elite ES player his first 2 years in the league. As an 18/19 year old, thats pretty crazy to think about. Especially when you consider how good he already is defensively.

His ES production has been better than the following the past 2 years:

Jack Eichel
Mark Scheifele
Mikko Rantanen
Logan Couture
Brayden Schenn
Tyler Seguin
Blake Wheeler
Tomas Hertl
Jake Voracek
Anze Kopitar

and thats just a few.

The reason he hasn't been putting up 70+ points is because he hasnt been a great PP player to date, and part of that is because the Devils havent exactly had a great PP Overall. He only has 17 PP points in his career.

 

[Jack Be Quick]

see this I don't agree with

Nico Hischier has been close to an elite ES player his first 2 years in the league. As an 18/19 year old, thats pretty crazy to think about. Especially when you consider how good he already is defensively.

His ES production has been better than the following the past 2 years:

Jack Eichel
Mark Scheifele
Mikko Rantanen
Logan Couture
Brayden Schenn
Tyler Seguin
Blake Wheeler
Tomas Hertl
Jake Voracek
Anze Kopitar

and thats just a few.

The reason he hasn't been putting up 70+ points is because he hasnt been a great PP player to date, and part of that is because the Devils havent exactly had a great PP Overall. He only has 17 PP points in his career.

I hope everyone is bookmarking these threads.

Because it's going to be hilarious when people are confused about the Devils having 2 of the 3 best centermen and one of the top LD in the league in to perpetuity.

Good times ahead my friends.

 

[glenwo2]

Current player rankings #4, @Nubmer6 ?? WHERE IS #3?



Anyway, I get Palmieri being voted in unanimously but I just feel that he's too streaky a scorer.

Basically, if he doesn't score, he's not really contributing all that much on the ice as he can't really create his own shot or create plays for others when the goal-scoring dries up.

He needs someone to set him up for a shot on goal like a Jack Hughes...or a JESPER BRATT.