HFBoards Top 31 NHL Centers - #27

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Rank	Player	Age	Team	Country	GP	G	A	P	%
#1	Connor McDavid	22			78	41	75	116	85.7%
#2	Sidney Crosby	32			79	35	65	100	71.8%
#3	Nathan MacKinnon	23			82	41	58	99	71.3%
#4	Aleksander Barkov	23			82	35	61	96	38.1%
#5	Patrice Bergeron	34			65	32	47	79	50.9%
#6	Evgeni Malkin	33			68	21	51	72	64.3%
#7	Auston Matthews	21			68	37	36	73	35.0%
#8	Mark Scheifele	26			82	38	46	84	28.9%, 53.7% (TB)
#9	John Tavares	28			82	47	41	88	28.2%,46.3%(TB)
#10	Steven Stamkos	29			82	45	53	98	23.6%
#11	Jack Eichel	22			77	28	54	82	22.7%
#12	Brayden Point	23			79	41	51	92	37.2%
#13	Nicklas Backstrom	31			80	22	52	74	18.9%, 45.8% (TB)
#14	Sean Couturier	26			80	33	43	76	18.1%, 54.3% (TB)
#15	Sebastian Aho	22			82	30	53	83	18.1%, 45.7% (TB)
#16	Ryan O'Reilly	28			82	28	49	77	33.3%
#17	Tyler Seguin	27			82	33	47	80	47.1%
#18	Anze Kopitar	31			81	22	38	60	34.2%
#19	Evgeny Kuznetsov	27			76	21	51	72	26.4%, 55.0%
#20	Elias Pettersson	20			71	28	38	66	26.4%, 45.0%
#21	Jonathan Toews	31			82	35	46	81	39.2%
#22	Logan Couture	30			81	27	43	70	33.3%
#23	Mathew Barzal	22			82	18	44	62	36.3%, 57.6% (TB)
#24	Dylan Larkin	23			76	32	41	73	35.0%, 42.4% (TB)
#25	Matt Duchene	28			73	31	39	70	24.7%
#26	Sean Monahan	24			78	34	48	82	28.7%
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[wetcoast]

still Hertl but Horvat is really close.

 

[Love]

still Hertl but Horvat is really close.

Horvat is better than Hertl. Plays WAY harder minutes, better offensively, better defensively, and Hertl had an inflated shooting percentage. Everyone is being fooled by his shooting percentage and elite linemates.

Funny how Pettersson’s name can’t be mentioned on this site without someone immediately mentioning his shooting percentage when players like Hertl, Point, and Draisaitl all had even higher shooting percentages.

 

[Ace of Hades]

Monahan is picked way too high. What a joke. Hes inferior to Zibanejad, Horvat, and Hertl.

Anyways Voted Horvat again.

 

[Machinehead]

Imagine Zibanejad playing with Gaudreau instead of Namestnikov?

Hell, imagine Horvat, Hertl, Getzlaf, or Kevin f***ing Hayes playing with Gaudreau.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

strome and RNH being options over stastny cirelli danault and jordan staal is an absolute joke

 

[wetcoast]

Horvat is better than Hertl. Plays WAY harder minutes, better offensively, better defensively, and Hertl had an inflated shooting percentage. Everyone is being fooled by his shooting percentage and elite linemates.

Funny how Pettersson’s name can’t be mentioned on this site without someone immediately mentioning his shooting percentage when players like Hertl, Point, and Draisaitl all had even higher shooting percentages.

Hertl and Horvat are closer than people think, it's basically a coin toss for me.

horvat is an excellent player but he isn't a distributor and 57 ESP by Hertl is what tips the balance for me.

 

[quackquack]

How does Kopitar go 18th yet Getz is still on the board?

 

[canadiantirefire]

Getzlaf getting slept on hard

 

[cowgirlcath]

Monahan is picked way too high. What a joke. Hes inferior to Zibanejad, Horvat, and Hertl.

Anyways Voted Horvat again.

Way too high? No. A few spots too high? Maybe.

 

[wetcoast]

How does Kopitar go 18th yet Getz is still on the board?

Health and age.

Getzlaf is still a very good center but the fact is there are better centers available.

 

[FromRussiaWithLove]

Hertl or Zibanejad here.

Final 5 should be a combination of Getzlaf, Hertl, Zibanejad, Horvat, Krejci.
Honorable mentions to Johansen and Karlsson.

 

[ccman68]

Getzlaf? What year is it again?

 

[Ace of Hades]

Way too high? No. A few spots too high? Maybe.

More like 5-6 spots way too high.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Horvat is better than Hertl. Plays WAY harder minutes, better offensively, better defensively, and Hertl had an inflated shooting percentage. Everyone is being fooled by his shooting percentage and elite linemates.

Funny how Pettersson’s name can’t be mentioned on this site without someone immediately mentioning his shooting percentage when players like Hertl, Point, and Draisaitl all had even higher shooting percentages.

Hertl is better offensively in both goalscoring and playmaking, and better defensively at all strengths. Hertl had almost as many even strength points as Horvat had total points.

Who exactly are these “elite” linemates Hertl had? Bandaid boys Evander Kane and Joonas Donskoi, hoo boy those are some real superstars.

Hertl obviously had a great shooting year, and in no way do I think that 20% is sustainable, but Hertl is not a goal scorer who is going to snipe shots from 20 feet out. He’s quite simply the best net-front forward in the league. He’s taking higher quality shots than your average forward. He was one of the league leaders in scoring chances and high danger scoring chances IIRC.

I personally cannot imagine preferring Horvat to Hertl as your 1C, but whatever floats your boat.

 

[Love]

Hertl is better offensively in both goalscoring and playmaking, and better defensively at all strengths. Hertl had almost as many even strength points as Horvat had total points.

Who exactly are these “elite” linemates Hertl had? Bandaid boys Evander Kane and Joonas Donskoi, hoo boy those are some real superstars.

Hertl obviously had a great shooting year, and in no way do I think that 20% is sustainable, but Hertl is not a goal scorer who is going to snipe shots from 20 feet out. He’s quite simply the best net-front forward in the league. He’s taking higher quality shots than your average forward. He was one of the league leaders in scoring chances and high danger scoring chances IIRC.

I personally cannot imagine preferring Horvat to Hertl as your 1C, but whatever floats your boat.

I know at the bold area you’re trying to argue for Hertl but man are you ever making my argument for me. Also your “bandaid boys” played 75 and 80 games last season, and both players are better than any regular line mate Horvat had last season.

Hertl had an on ice shooting percentage of 12.3, he doesn’t drive possession all that well (unlike Horvat), and he gets favourable matchups and zone starts (unlike Horvat who plays the hardest minutes of any forward in the NHL). Hertl is just no where near the player Horvat is. It’s really not even close. Hertl is more of a 21-24 goal 55ish point complementary player. Horvat is an all situations, play-driving, line carrying, 1C.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Horvat is better than Hertl. Plays WAY harder minutes, better offensively, better defensively, and Hertl had an inflated shooting percentage. Everyone is being fooled by his shooting percentage and elite linemates.

Funny how Pettersson’s name can’t be mentioned on this site without someone immediately mentioning his shooting percentage when players like Hertl, Point, and Draisaitl all had even higher shooting percentages.

Please, tell me about these “elite linemates”.

I know at the bold area you’re trying to argue for Hertl but man are you ever making my argument for me. Also your “bandaid boys” played 75 and 80 games last season, and both players are better than any regular line mate Horvat had last season.

Hertl had an on ice shooting percentage of 12.3, he doesn’t drive possession all that well (unlike Horvat), and he gets favourable matchups and zone starts (unlike Horvat who plays the hardest minutes of any forward in the NHL). Hertl is just no where near the player Horvat is. It’s really not even close. Hertl is more of a 21-24 goal 55ish point complementary player. Horvat is an all situations, play-driving, line carrying, 1C.

Your entire post comes off completely clueless about Hertl, but the bolded in particular is hilarious.

From 2016-2019, Hertl has a significantly higher positive Corsi impact than Horvat according to Evolving Hockey’s RAPM model.

EDIT: Just saw that you were the same guy who said that Hertl has elite linemates. Yeah, you should probably stop talking about Hertl.