HF Organizational Rankings/ Prospect Grades

[Nalens Oga]

Florida has to be #1 with this draft, plus Schenn leaving LA

With a top 10 of...

Huberdeau
Markstrom
Gudbranson
Bjugstad
Howden
Grimaldi
Shore
Petrovic
Bengtsson
McFarland

Huberdeau is the only high end forward their imo. I like the depth but not the quality of some other top fives. I don't think that someone like Howden or Bjugstad will be close to ppg scorers. Maybe 60 pts, and they won't get too far on Florida anyways. Markstrom good goalie prospect but...he is a goalie.

 

[DaveG]

love how filatov goes to the sens and becomes an 8.5 in some sens fans eyes. yet as a blue jacket he was an 8.0.

Whatever the number, it needs to be an "H" letter grade, as in "he better get his head out of his ass if he ever wants to make it".

 

[Drij]

Players playing in the NHL are no longer prospects.

 

[SniperHF]

Coyotes:

Connor Murphy: 8C
Alexander Ruuttu: 6C
Lucas Lessio: 7D
Harrison Ruopp: 5D
Kale Kessy: 6B
Darian Dziurzynski: 5B
Andrew Fritsch: 6D
Zac Larraza: 4C

Brutal, I cannot disagree however.

 

[dream catcher]

Devils top 5 prospects IMO

Adam Larsson - 8.5B
Jacob Josefson - 7.5B
Jon Merrill - 7.5B
Mattias Tedenby - 7.5C
Adam Henrique - 6.0B

 

[eberlehall*]

Not enough Sens Love.

Zibby- 8.0D
Neosen- 7.0B
Puempel- 7.5B
Prince- 7.0D
Filatov- 8.5B


1. D - David Rundblad
2. D - Jared Cowen
3. G - Robin Lehner
4. C - Mika Zibanejad
5. LW - Nikita Filatov
6. RW - Jakob Silfverberg
7. RW - Bobby Butler
8. LW - Matt Puempel
9. RW - Stefan Noesen
10. D - Patrick Wiercioch

Honorable mentions: Stephan Da Costa, Shane Prince, Andre Petersson, Mark Stone.

Filatov- 8.5B
Filatov- 8.5B
Filatov- 8.5B
Filatov- 8.5B
Filatov- 8.5B
Filatov- 8.5B
Filatov- 8.5B
Filatov- 8.5B
Filatov- 8.5B
Filatov- 8.5B
Filatov- 8.5B

 

[eberlehall*]

Still have a better D now and in the future than Ottawa, so the penis envy, while adorable, is futile on your end.

Grachev's failure was the most well guarded "secret" on HF. We Rangers fans did a good job holding him in high esteem while he floundered in the AHL.

Don't think so. If there is one thing Ottawa has is a outstanding future on Defence.

 

[KingLB]

Every team in the top5 will move up cause not only did the Kings lose Schenn but they also didn't get to "reload" as they had no first. Then if Bernier isn't counted anymore I doubt they are top10. Though still have 3-4 second tier prospects that I can see keeping them around 10-15ish.

 

[Voodoo Child]

Don't think so. If there is one thing Ottawa has is a outstanding future on Defence.

To be fair, the Rangers have Staal, Girardi, McDonagh, Sauer and (ugh...) Gilroy playing right now with McIlrath and Erixon coming through. I love Karlsson, Cowen and Rundblad, but right now as in today, the Rangers are winning here.

Biggs - 7C
Percy - 7.5C

Filatov - 8D

Leafs - About 11th.
Sens - Maybe 6th?

 

[Prussian_Blue]

Grachev demanded to be traded.

Players that demand trades, and can use the KHL threat, are not returning anything substantial.

The story I hear is that he asked to be traded because he felt he needed a change of scenery, and that he felt he wasn't going to get a real shot to crack the Rangers' lineup.

There's a big difference between "demanded a trade" and "asked for a change of scenery," but I understand that Ranger fans are obligated to run Grachev down because he didn't want to be a Ranger any more.

 

[JumpierPegasus]

1. Cody Hodgson 8.0 D
2. Chris Tanev 7.5 B
3. Eddie Lack 7.0 B
4. Anton Rodin 7.5 C
5. Nicklas Jensen 7.0 C
6. Jordan Schroeder 7.5 D
7. Sergei Shirokov 7.0 C
8. Kevin Connauton 6.5 B
9. Billy Sweatt 6.5 C
10. Patrick McNally 7.0 D

HM: Yann Sauve (7.0 C), David Honzik (6.0 B), Sebastion Erixon (7.0 D), Darren Archibauld (6.5 C)

 

[Afro Thunder*]

Sorry guys, what I meant to say is

Filatov 9.5AAAAA.

 

[Kevin27NYI]

Florida has to be #1 with this draft, plus Schenn leaving LA

With a top 10 of...

Huberdeau
Markstrom
Gudbranson
Bjugstad
Howden
Grimaldi
Shore
Petrovic
Bengtsson
McFarland

Very nice group. I like where the Islanders are at too, who should be in the conversation for number one.

I don't know from rankings, because really...It's not a science. All I know is that the Islanders are in the conversation...

1. Nino Niederreiter
2. Ryan Strome
3. Calvin DeHaan
4. Kevin Poulin
5. Anders Nilsson
6. Kirill Petrov
7. Matt Donovan
8. Ty Wishart
9. Casey Cizikas
10. Scott Mayfield
11. Anders Lee
12. Mikko Koskinen
13. Brock Nelson
14. Kirill Kabanov
15. Rhett Rakhshani
16. David Ullstrom
17. Mark Katic
18. Blake Kessel
19. Andrei Pedan
20. Robbie Russo
21. Aaron Ness
22. Johan Sundstrom
23. John Persson
24. Brenden Kichton
25. Anton Klementyev
26. Shane Sims
27. Corey Trvino
28. Mitchell Theoret

Hamonic should be number one, he's still elegible.

 

[McMatthews]

Toronto Maple Leafs

1) G James Reimer - 8.5B
2) F Nazem Kadri - 8B
3) F Joe Colborne - 8C
4) D Jake Gardiner - 8C
5) F Matt Frattin - 8C
6) D Keith Aulie - 7B
7) D Jesse Blacker - 7.5C
8) F Tyler Biggs - 7.5C
9) D Stuart Percy - 7.5B
10) F Greg McKegg - 7.5C
11) F Jerry D'Amigo - 7C
12) G Ben Scrivens - 7.5D
13) F Brad Ross - 7C
14) G Jussi Rynnas - 8D
15) D Korbinian Holzer - 6.5B
16) G Mark Owuya - 7C
17) F Luca Caputi - 7D
18) F Marcel Mueller - 7C
19) F Sondre Olden - 8D
20) F Josh Leivo - 7.5C
21) F Daniel Brodin - 6C
22) D Juraj Mikus - 6.5C
23) F Kenny Ryan - 6B
24) F Josh Nicholls - 6.5D
25) D Simon Gysbers - 6.5C
26) F Jamie Devane - 6.5D
27) D Petter Granberg - 6.5D
28) D Tom Nilsson - 6.5D
29) F David Broll - 6D
30) F Sam Carrick - 6D


List of prospects: http://www.hockeysfuture.com/teams/toronto_maple_leafs
HF Criteria: http://www.hockeysfuture.com/playerprojections/

 

[Prussian_Blue]

I'm not a big fan of these letter grades, because they're so subjective and because they're awarded by people who don't evaluate prospects for a living.

St. Louis still has one of the better prospect pools in the league, however, despite not having a first-rounder this weekend. Rattie and Jaskin both were ranked by more than one objective observer as legitimate first-round talents, Edmundson is very well thought of, and if his Saint John teammates are any judges of talent, then Ryan Tesink is the steal of the draft, as Huberdeau, Phillips and Beaulieu all had good things to say about him in an article I read (and which is linked in the "St. Louis Game Time" Blues Draft Review.)

There aren't a lot of organizations who have a Top Seven that's better than this:

1. Vladimir Tarasenko
2. Jaden Schwartz
3. Jake Allen
4. Ian Cole
5. Evgeny Grachev
6. Dmitrij Jaskin
7. Ty Rattie

 

[CamDegs13]

Toronto Maple Leafs

1) G James Reimer - 8.5B
2) F Nazem Kadri - 8B
3) F Joe Colborne - 8C
4) D Jake Gardiner - 8C
5) F Matt Frattin - 8C
6) D Keith Aulie - 7B
7) D Jesse Blacker - 7.5C
8) F Tyler Biggs - 7.5C
9) D Stuart Percy - 7.5B
10) F Greg McKegg - 7.5C
11) F Jerry D'Amigo - 7C
12) G Ben Scrivens - 7.5D
13) F Brad Ross - 7C
14) G Jussi Rynnas - 8D
15) D Korbinian Holzer - 6.5B
16) G Mark Owuya - 7C
17) F Luca Caputi - 7D
18) F Marcel Mueller - 7C
19) F Sondre Olden - 8D
20) F Josh Leivo - 7.5C
21) F Daniel Brodin - 6C
22) D Juraj Mikus - 6.5C
23) F Kenny Ryan - 6B
24) F Josh Nicholls - 6.5D
25) D Simon Gysbers - 6.5C
26) F Jamie Devane - 6.5D
27) D Petter Granberg - 6.5D
28) D Tom Nilsson - 6.5D
29) F David Broll - 6D
30) F Sam Carrick - 6D


List of prospects: http://www.hockeysfuture.com/teams/toronto_maple_leafs
HF Criteria: http://www.hockeysfuture.com/playerprojections/

Your ratings on Biggs, Percy and Leivo are a bit generous, among others. Reimer has a good rookie season and he's all of a sudden a higher prospect rating than Markstrom, Rask, and Bernier?

 

[Canuck Luck]

love how filatov goes to the sens and becomes an 8.5 in some sens fans eyes. yet as a blue jacket he was an 8.0.

He does have potential to be a gamebreaker. HF usually has bad potential ratings. I would trust a die hard hockey fan's opinion over this site's.
In my opinion Filatov is around a 8.5C

Perfect example is my very own favourite team's list.
Here is a look at the Nucks list and what it should actually be (my number in brackets):
1(1). Cody Hodgson
2(4). Anton Rodin
3(7). Sergei Shirokov
4(3). Jordan Schroeder
5(6). Bill Sweatt
6(8). Kevin Connauton
7(11). Patrick McNally
8(2). Chris Tanev
9(5). Eddie Lack
10(12). Joe Cannata
11(9). Yann Sauve
12(19). Adam Polasek
13(20). Steven Anthony
14(HM). Alex Friesen
15(17). Jermey Price
16(16). Mario Bliznak
17(14). Prab Rai
18(13). Peter Andersson
19(HM). Darren Archibald
20(18). Jonathan Illahiti

HM:
(15). Aaron Volpatti
(10). Sebastien Erixon
Sawyer Hannay
Kellan Tochkin
Stefan Schneider

Chris Tanev is a 6.0C. He signed with the Canucks last off season and in his 1st season as a pro season he has already reached that 6.0 potential. I would say he should be around 7.5B

Aaron Volpatti is in his 1st pro year and already has played in the NHL. he should have a potential of 6.0B not 5.0C

Thats just noting the 2 biggest mistakes

 

[CamDegs13]

1) Dougie Hamilton - D - 8.5 C
2) Jordan Caron - RW - 7.0 B
3) Ryan Spooner - LW/C - 7.5 C
4) Alexander Khokhlachev LW/C - 7.5 C
5) Jared Knight - RW - 7.0 C
6) Maxime Sauve - C - 7.0 C
7) Steven Kampfer - D - 7.0 C
8) Jamie Arniel - C - 6.5 B
9) Zach Hamill - C - 7.0 D
10) Matt Bartkowski - D - 6.5 C
11) David Warsofsky - D - 7.0 D
12) Tommy Cross - D - 6.5 C
13) Yuri Alexandrov - D - 6.5 C
14) Colby Cohen - D - 7.0 D
15) Ryan Button - D - 6.5 D
16) Carter Camper - RW - 6.5 C
17) Zane Gothberg - G - 7.0 D
18) Maxim Chudinov - D - 6.5 D
19) Craig Cunningham - LW - 6.5 C
20) Marc Cantin - D - 6.5 D

 

[Erza Scarlet]

Your ratings on Biggs, Percy and Leivo are a bit generous. Reimer has a good rookie season and he's all of a sudden a higher prospect rating than Markstrom, Rask, and Bernier?

you're probably right. Reimer if he repeats should be an 8B or so and it wouldn't matter if Markstrom, Rask or Bernier are rated higher if they don't get it done. Rask I think is better than Reim's but he also played behind Bruins stingy system so who knows.

 

[HabsInsideOut]

Florida has to be #1 with this draft, plus Schenn leaving LA

With a top 10 of...

Huberdeau
Markstrom
Gudbranson
Bjugstad
Howden
Grimaldi
Shore
Petrovic
Bengtsson
McFarland

amazing - Edmonton as well btw

 

[Oilmageddon*]

2011 Draft
1. 14 Jamie Oleksiak 7.5 C
2. 44 Brett Ritchie 7.0 C
4. 105 Emil Molin 7.0 D
5. 135 Troy Vance 6.5 C
6. 165 Matej Stransky 6.5 D
7. 195 Jyrki Jokipakka 5.5 B

Organization
1. Jack Campbell
2. Phillip Larsen
3. Jamie Oleksiak
4. Tomas Vincour
5. Alex Chiasson
6. Patrick Nemeth
7. John Klingberg
8. Reilly Smith
9. Brenden Dillon
10. Richard Bachman
11. Curtis McKenzie
12. Brett Ritchie
13. Ondrej Roman
14. Colton Scerviour
15. Tyler Beskorowany
16. Austin Smith
17. Matt Fraser
18. Emil Molin
19. Hubert Labrie
20. Troy Vance

Wow pretty weak in the prospect department. Tough times ahead for the big D

 

[HighLifeMan]

Toronto Maple Leafs

1) G James Reimer - 8.5B
2) F Nazem Kadri - 8B
3) F Joe Colborne - 8C
4) D Jake Gardiner - 8C
5) F Matt Frattin - 8C
6) D Keith Aulie - 7B
7) D Jesse Blacker - 7.5C
8) F Tyler Biggs - 7.5C
9) D Stuart Percy - 7.5B
10) F Greg McKegg - 7.5C
11) F Jerry D'Amigo - 7C
12) G Ben Scrivens - 7.5D
13) F Brad Ross - 7C
14) G Jussi Rynnas - 8D
15) D Korbinian Holzer - 6.5B
16) G Mark Owuya - 7C
17) F Luca Caputi - 7D
18) F Marcel Mueller - 7C
19) F Sondre Olden - 8D
20) F Josh Leivo - 7.5C
21) F Daniel Brodin - 6C
22) D Juraj Mikus - 6.5C
23) F Kenny Ryan - 6B
24) F Josh Nicholls - 6.5D
25) D Simon Gysbers - 6.5C
26) F Jamie Devane - 6.5D
27) D Petter Granberg - 6.5D
28) D Tom Nilsson - 6.5D
29) F David Broll - 6D
30) F Sam Carrick - 6D


List of prospects: http://www.hockeysfuture.com/teams/toronto_maple_leafs
HF Criteria: http://www.hockeysfuture.com/playerprojections/

A good majority of those are a tad too optimistic.

 

[Joey Moss]

Florida has to be #1 with this draft, plus Schenn leaving LA

With a top 10 of...

Huberdeau
Markstrom
Gudbranson
Bjugstad
Howden
Grimaldi
Shore
Petrovic
Bengtsson
McFarland

You guys are lucky Hall, Eberle and Paajarvi are graduated otherwise you'd be matching up against:

Hall
RNH
Eberle
Paajarvi
Petry
Marincin
Klefbom
Hamilton
Pitlick
Lander
Omark

 

[IslandersFan17]

I don't know from rankings, because really...It's not a science. All I know is that the Islanders are in the conversation...

1. Nino Niederreiter
2. Ryan Strome
3. Calvin DeHaan
4. Kevin Poulin
5. Anders Nilsson
6. Kirill Petrov
7. Matt Donovan
8. Ty Wishart
9. Casey Cizikas
10. Scott Mayfield
11. Anders Lee
12. Mikko Koskinen
13. Brock Nelson
14. Kirill Kabanov
15. Rhett Rakhshani
16. David Ullstrom
17. Mark Katic
18. Blake Kessel
19. Andrei Pedan
20. Robbie Russo
21. Aaron Ness
22. Johan Sundstrom
23. John Persson
24. Brenden Kichton
25. Anton Klementyev
26. Shane Sims
27. Corey Trvino
28. Mitchell Theoret

I would rearrange some of the rankings but I agree, the Islanders have to be in the conversation. Obviously as an Islander fan I have a bias, but I tip my hat where it is due.

I mean how about the Flyers adding Schenn and Couturier to their farm system?
Nashville without a doubt has some of the best D specs. Rangers as well.
Etc...

All-said-and-done the Islanders have absolutely wedged their selves into the conversation.

 

[HockeySauce]

1. Jeremy Morin, C 7.5B
2. Dylan Olsen, D 7.5C
3. Kyle Beach, LW 7.5C
4. Mark McNeill, C 7.5C
5. Kevin Hayes, W/C 7.5C
6. Marcus Kruger, C/W - 7.0B
7. Shawn Lalonde, D - 7.0C
8. Brandon Pirri, C - 7.0C
9. Brandon Saad, LW - 8.0D
10. Stephen Johns, D - 7.0C

-Changed Morin from 7.0B to 7.5B
-Changed Kruger from 7.0C to 7.0B
-Added McNeill/Saad from 2011 draft

Otherwise, all grades are what they are from HF.