HF GM Games Fantasy Mock Draft #3 - Discussion II

[Addison Rae]

This is pretty laughable.

a guy carrying a garbage team to the playoffs is the definition of what the hart trophy is about.

when pettersson and hughes are off the ice the canucks are the worst team in the NHL.

 

[Nucker101]

He's elite in like a quarter of the games he plays. The other three quarters he looks like he doesn't give a shit. To be honest he's probably tired of being on a trash team with trash D partners.
So yes I still view him as elite (when put in the right situation)

but how come other great players still play well on shit teams?

 

[hockeynorth]

Who's up right now can we get tags in the draft thread again

 

[Addison Rae]

You can't SAY it's for someone else, we went over this

i don’t people thinking i chose him

 

[LT]

He's elite in like a quarter of the games he plays. The other three quarters he looks like he doesn't give a shit. To be honest he's probably tired of being on a trash team with trash D partners.
So yes I still view him as elite (when put in the right situation)

If I were Doughty I wouldn’t give a shit either. He’s won everything there is to win. He makes 10M a year. The team around him is total garbage.

 

[LT]

i don’t people thinking i chose him

What do you mean you picked for Vegas

 

[hockeynorth]

@EvilDead is up, between the two of them they took two players they can sort out their mess Ill pm him

 

[Addison Rae]

What do you mean you picked for Vegas

yeah i chose him for @Exquisite i wouldn’t do that

 

[Joey Moss]

a guy carrying a garbage team to the playoffs is the definition of what the hart trophy is about.

when pettersson and hughes are off the ice the canucks are the worst team in the NHL.

Kucherov just won the f***ing trophy last year on a team that set regular season records..

What are you talking about

 

[Nucker101]

@EvilDead is up, between the two of them they took two players they can sort out their mess Ill pm him

its for the trade they're completing after the draft.

 

[Addison Rae]

“mess” it’s really not such a hard concept to follow. we made a trade that will be announced at the end of the draft.

 

[hockeynorth]

its for the trade they're completing after the draft.

Yeah I know so whatever lets just move on and not waste 4 pages on it this time

 

[Addison Rae]

Kucherov just won the f***ing trophy last year on a team that set regular season records..

What are you talking about

yeah because the hart trophy is a cop out at this point to flash players with points, but look at what the definition of the trophy is.

 

[Panda Bear]

but how come other great players still play well on shit teams?

you mean the motivated ones without two cup rings?

unfortunately being lazy/unmotivated still doesn't mean you weren't crap

 

[hockeynorth]

“mess” it’s really not such a hard concept to follow. we made a trade that will be announced at the end of the draft.

No I know I get it, its the announcing its for someone thing but whatever I just wanna keep going

 

[Nucker101]

Yeah I know so whatever lets just move on and not waste 4 pages on it this time

exactly.

 

[Exquisite]

No I know I get it, its the announcing its for someone thing but whatever I just wanna keep going

Yeah I don't like it either. He didn't have to act like me and type those words

 

[Nucker101]

you mean the motivated ones without two cup rings?

unfortunately being lazy/unmotivated still doesn't mean you weren't crap

I mean he still tries against the Canadian teams for some reason, maybe someone can use that small sample size and put this argument to bed.

 

[McDrai]

but how come other great players still play well on shit teams?

Not excusing his play. He should be putting in 100% effort in every game but he probably doesn't see the point considering he's making bank and has won everything there is to win.
But if you watch a motivated Doughty (versus Calgary for example as he hates Tkachuk lol) you see the elite dman that he is.

 

[hockeynorth]

Okay question for you guys, lets forget cap hits, who is better THIS SEASON at hockey, lets say we put them in the same situations:
Erik Karlsson or Drew Doughty

 

[Panda Bear]

Row Labels	PandaScore	Standard Deviation	Points	PP Impact	SACF%	CFRC%	DFFRC%	G/60	FA1/60	FA2/60	Penalties +-/60	xGoals +-	xGoals Shooting	Created xGoals	Point Share	Zone Exiting	Zone Entering	O-zone Passing	Grit	Entry Defence StDev
Kris Letang	303.8	1.89	61.7	29.4	2.2	1.0	2.9	0.35	0.42	0.48	0.2	10.6	6.2	7.3	10.1	7.4	2.6	3.7	3.3	0.40
Drew Doughty	175.0	0.4	45.2	25.9	1.9	-0.4	-3.1	0.0	0.3	0.4	0.1	-7.1	3.6	3.8	6.8	7.2	2.1	2.9	-0.7	0.9
All Players	139.8	0.0	35.2	11.4	1.9	0.0	-0.1	0.5	0.5	0.4	0.6	0.3	8.3	8.0	4.1	5.1	5.3	4.8	0.0	0.0
Defence Only	115.4	-0.3	26.3	8.4	1.9	0.0	-0.3	0.2	0.3	0.3	0.3	-0.6	3.7	4.2	4.7	5.9	2.4	2.6	1.0	0.0

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[Addison Rae]

it’s a post in a thread after the trade has already been announced that really can’t bother you guys that much can it? my bad then

 

[Addison Rae]

Okay question for you guys, lets forget cap hits, who is better THIS SEASON at hockey, lets say we put them in the same situations:
Erik Karlsson or Drew Doughty

karlsson with ease

 

[BeLeafing]

Okay question for you guys, lets forget cap hits, who is better THIS SEASON at hockey, lets say we put them in the same situations:
Erik Karlsson or Drew Doughty

Assuming health it's EK for sure. But in real life his health scares me.

 

[Paralyzer008]

Okay question for you guys, lets forget cap hits, who is better THIS SEASON at hockey, lets say we put them in the same situations:
Erik Karlsson or Drew Doughty

Probably Karlsson....

...but Karlsson also looks a little broken.

A thing people don't realize with Doughty is he had a LOT of miles on him, he was for me the undisputed No.1 D in the league for a few years (you could maybe argue Karlsson at times, maybe even Keith) and LA absolutely ran him into the ground with usage and he excelled in it for years and years.

When you get all situations at 26 mins a game for a decade, you'll eventually wear down, and it'll take some time for people to notice.