Oscar Acosta
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Well Nintendo does lack original games. The Switch especially. I mean its so brand new. They have some great new IP's and now they are getting some third-party remakes like DOOM, Skyrim, Rocket League and recently announced Dark Souls. Its going to be years again before we get another Mario or Zelda. Prepare for another drought in Nintendo games. They need some real third party support (with NEW games) if they want the Switch to last really long. These current games will keep it relevant for a while though.The 'Nintendo lacks games' argument doesn't hold a thimble of water this year, fwiw. Usually I'll lead that fight, but credit where it's due: Nintendo had a pretty fantastic 2017. Now the onus is on them to follow this up without having long-developed Zelda or Mario games in their back pockets.
I'll definitely buy the split vote argument, though, from one console people. Zelda coming out so much earlier than Mario also helped its case in something like this.
I actually loved both games. I liked Horizon because of its originality. I keep trying to picture if BOTW wasn't a Zelda game but some other random hero and a completely different cast of characters but gameplay and everything else identical... I don't think it would be as well received. Heck I could even see it being called a poor mans Horizon. But because its Zelda its fresh and amazing. There is nothing wrong with that but technically its not an impressive game really. Its impressive because its open-world like that AND its Nintendo and Zelda.As someone who has both Zelda and Horizon, I disagree. Horizon simply isn't in Zelda's class.
Maybe Zelda won because it's the best game of the past half-decade at least?
I'm not saying subjective taste, I'm saying nobody in their right mind could honestly think Zelda was the best video game of the year if they played the others.
Just like by my taste, Back to the Future is my favourite movie of all time. But does it deserve the 1986 Academy Award for best picture over Platoon? Probably not. I might think All Eyez on Me is the greatest rap album of all time but the Grammy voters went with the Fugees in 1997. They were probably wrong though, my point remains. Your favourite isn't always the best. Eric Lindros was my favourite hockey player from 1992-2003, he only won one Hart Trophy.
People voting that Zelda was the best video game of 2017 either didn't play the others, or are blindly voting because it held no candle in video game technology or advancement over the other nominees.
Mmmkay if I was going to make a list for 2010 to vote on how does this look?
Anything egregious that's missing?
I'd guess it's pretty well gonna come down to FNV vs RDR vs ME2 voting wise.[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Alan Wake Amnesia: The Dark Descent Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood Battlefield: Bad Company 2 Call of Duty: Black Ops Fallout: New Vegas God Of War III Heavy Rain Mass Effect 2 Red Dead Redemption Sid Meier's Civilization V Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty Super Mario Galaxy 2
Mmmkay if I was going to make a list for 2010 to vote on how does this look?
Anything egregious that's missing?
I'd guess it's pretty well gonna come down to FNV vs RDR vs ME2 voting wise.[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Alan Wake Amnesia: The Dark Descent Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood Battlefield: Bad Company 2 Call of Duty: Black Ops Fallout: New Vegas God Of War III Heavy Rain Mass Effect 2 Red Dead Redemption Sid Meier's Civilization V Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty Super Mario Galaxy 2
Dang, 2010 was a great year....but I'd have to give it to Command & Conquer 4: Tiberian Twilight.
I would have to say Battlfield: Bad Company 2. I have well over 100 hours into that multiplayer. But I would give an honorable mention to a game I feel is VERY underrated... Singularity. I really wish that game would get a sequel or remaster.
So many memories of Bad Company and Bad Company 2. Do you remember the NS2000 shotgun? I swear on everything I own that I invented sniping with it . People would rage so hard but then friend request and I would teach them. If you put in the slugs ammo the HUD went from a BIG circle where you couldn't kill anyone unless they were 2 feet in front of you to actual crosshairs and you could basically snipe with it.BC2 was amazing. I have fond memories of playing a medic and winning many MVPs in matches where I never once fired a single shot. I'm pretty sure the movie Hacksaw Ridge was based on me playing Battlefield.
I'd have to give it to Mass Effect 2, though.
Another honourable mention to Black Ops. I played a crap tonne of that game.
I'm not saying subjective taste, I'm saying nobody in their right mind could honestly think Zelda was the best video game of the year if they played the others.
Just like by my taste, Back to the Future is my favourite movie of all time. But does it deserve the 1986 Academy Award for best picture over Platoon? Probably not. I might think All Eyez on Me is the greatest rap album of all time but the Grammy voters went with the Fugees in 1997. They were probably wrong though, my point remains. Your favourite isn't always the best. Eric Lindros was my favourite hockey player from 1992-2003, he only won one Hart Trophy.
People voting that Zelda was the best video game of 2017 either didn't play the others, or are blindly voting because it held no candle in video game technology or advancement over the other nominees.
If you look up and squint real hard you can just see the point flying over your head.This sounds like someone who only played Zelda.
What is "fun stuff" to you? I had fun searching exploring and searching for shrines, not just to get orbs and make Link stronger, but moreso to complete the puzzles within.Breath of the Wild is kinda a bad Zelda game and I've been pretty constantly surprised at seeing so many "best game of all time" reactions.
It's maybe the best video game world ever with a not so great video game attached to it. Hopefully the next one is an open world that actually has fun stuff to do in it.
I have a PS4 and the game that got 2nd in this poll...This sounds like someone who only played Zelda.
What is "fun stuff" to you? I had fun searching exploring and searching for shrines, not just to get orbs and make Link stronger, but moreso to complete the puzzles within.
^ I do cringe a bit whenever I hear someone say that it's usurped A Link to the Past as their favorite.
I actually fundamentally hate the idea of nostalgia, the fact that it influences people, the fact that it elevates things that don't deserve it, and the fact that it automatically creates doubt about people's opinions. I usually end up hating and being unfairly hard on things that I grew up loving instead (partly out of embarassment, I guess?). It just isn't an idea that I have an appreciation for.Link to the Past is probably my third or fourth favourite Zelda but I didn't actually play it until like 2005, so I don't have the same nostalgia for it that others might.
Dang, 2010 was a great year....but I'd have to give it to Command & Conquer 4: Tiberian Twilight.
I actually fundamentally hate the idea of nostalgia, the fact that it influences people, the fact that it elevates things that don't deserve it, and the fact that it automatically creates doubt about people's opinions. I usually end up hating and being unfairly hard on things that I grew up loving instead (partly out of embarassment, I guess?). It just isn't an idea that I have an appreciation for.
I do love when you discover greatness in something that you grew up only superficially enjoying or taking for granted, though. I was never a Link to the Past fan as a kid. In hindsight, I think it's brilliant, and none of the sequels have felt nearly as charming and on point to me.
I had a similar reaction as an adult to Super Mario World. Because it was the first game that came with the system, as a kid I was always under the impression that it was bland and basic, and that flashier games that came later were superior. But playing it again, it blew me away that I never realized it was such a tight and perfectly conceived/crafted game.
I'm not saying subjective taste, I'm saying nobody in their right mind could honestly think Zelda was the best video game of the year if they played the others.
Just like by my taste, Back to the Future is my favourite movie of all time. But does it deserve the 1986 Academy Award for best picture over Platoon? Probably not. I might think All Eyez on Me is the greatest rap album of all time but the Grammy voters went with the Fugees in 1997. They were probably wrong though, my point remains. Your favourite isn't always the best. Eric Lindros was my favourite hockey player from 1992-2003, he only won one Hart Trophy.
People voting that Zelda was the best video game of 2017 either didn't play the others, or are blindly voting because it held no candle in video game technology or advancement over the other nominees.
Goldeneye got its reputation because it was really groundbreaking for gaming. Even without the bad controls, it's not a particularly good game. Its sacred status came because it allowed friends to get together for real PVPFPS play. It paved the way for Halo to break new ground and make the FPS genre the powerhouse it is today. At least in console gaming.Nostalgia affects game the least out of like anything though. The memories might affect it but I mean. You can still play it and see how it is. Super mario bros 3? Still holds up. Goldeneye? Many people love it but if people played it now I doubt that many people enjoy it (unless they play with friends). Controls are wonky
Goldeneye got its reputation because it was really groundbreaking for gaming. Even without the bad controls, it's not a particularly good game. Its sacred status came because it allowed friends to get together for real PVPFPS play. It paved the way for Halo to break new ground and make the FPS genre the powerhouse it is today. At least in console gaming.
If I thought back to the best N64 games, I don't think Goldeneye even cracks my top 15.
Yeah, it was fun at the time but not one of the greats IMO.
The only possible N64 "best of" list is as follows:
1) Super Smash Bros
2) Mario Kart 64
3) Ocarina of Time
4) DK64
5) Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards
Also, unrelated fun fact: the only games I had for N64.
Very critical snub of Mario 64,
IMO it goes
Super Mario 64
Smash Bros
Ocarina of Time/Majora's Mask
DK Country
Mario Kart
Star Fox 64
Star Wars Rogue Squadron
Paper Mario
Banjo Kazooie
Pokemon Stadium
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2
Mario Tennis
Kirby 64
Conker's Bad Fur Day
F-Zero X
Perfect Dark
Goldeneye
I missed that part.The joke there was I only owned those 5 games I listed.
I missed that part.
Yeah I missed the PS2/OG Xbox gen so I only had N64/Gamecube and PC games (I played GTA Vice City for the PC more than anything)