HF Fantasy Draft Talk pt3

[hockeynorth]

With that said, @AveryStar4Eva has become unstoppable since the OG games, he's crushed the super drafts, maybe this is his time

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

With that said, @AveryStar4Eva has become unstoppable since the OG games, he's crushed the super drafts, maybe this is his time

I’ve mastered the art of the name value. Started from #27 now we here

 

[Llamamoto]

Gonna say it

Ottawa and Anaheim are the two a tier below everyone left, Anaheims closer though

Nah, Anaheim could be the best team remaining.

They're stacked everywhere.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

You guys actually use lists? I just wait until I'm up (or close to it) and see who's available that might be a good fit.

Wow, I'm being slaughtered on the mains by @BeLeafing. I'm kind of surprised that I'm losing by such a large margin after finishing better in the regular season voting, especially since Gaudreau and Pacioretty aren't exactly noted playoff performers. Why does everyone think his team is better built for the playoffs?

 

[EP to Kuzmenko]

There is St. Louis slander in this thread, and by gawd I won't stand for it. Here is my case as to why the doubters are wrong:

L1: Proven success. Those 3 are players are a big reason why St. Louis won the cup last year. Specifically ROR who has shown to elevate his game come playoff time. I mean, he did win the Conn Smythe last year. They have been the offensive leaders of a winning team before, see no reason to doubt their chemistry and success this time.

L2: Danault-Gallagher as 2/3 parts of a second line. Yes, please. Again, 2 guys who have great chemistry together and proven to be VERY effective together over a large sample size over the past couple years. And that is when they have been arguably the main threat to opponents...now they are clearly 2nd fiddle in St. Louis and this may allow them to thrive even more. If you want to doubt Chytil, fine, although I think he takes some step forward this year. But even if not, the Montreal duo alone should make this a very strong 5v5 2nd line.

L3: Carter is aging sure. But in an offensive 3C role I think he is MORE than capable. Give him a reason to care again on a strong team and he might even be revitalized. He brings cup experience and scored at a 23 goal pace on LA last year...let's not act like he is toast. Zegras is a top prospect with great playmaking ability. Given Carter can put the puck in the net and this line has easy offensive minutes, this should be a fine combo. Meanwhile, Grimaldi brings solid two-way play and is coming off a great year. The fact that this line may be the weak part of my roster should say something.

L4: Wallmark has shown the offense and defense to be a capable 3C in this league. Him as a 4C just shows strong center depth. Maroon has won back to back cups...that isn't a fluke, what he brings to a team is very valuable. Lucic was a meme pick (but also a fine 4th liner). I should be getting + votes from saving this board from the embarrassment of our king going undrafted. He has been talked about since round 1 in many of our drafts, the fact that I steal him in round 20 is a miracle.

D1: Hedman, that is all. But seriously, the best D in the game. He has carried a hell of a lot worse players than his former D partner, I see no reason why Stralman should hold him back from constantly pushing this pairing in the right direction. And oh lookie here, another recent cup AND Conn Smythe winner. Guess that mkaes us 2/2 on those over the last couple years. Remember, we are voting for the playoffs and there is no reason to think Hedman can't dominate them again.

D2: Martinez is a solid 2nd pair D. I don't think anyone can argue he is any more or any less. But again, cup experience (and a cup winning goal to boot) and has played 21+ minutes a year on some pretty solid teams consistently since then. There is a reason for that. Jokiharju I fully expected to be underrated, but I will say this. He is already the Sabres 2nd best D by a solid margin, right now. He is rock solid and already a top-4 D. Give the 21 year kid another year of development and that fact will be known around the league.

D3: Calvin de Haan isn't as good as he used to be. But he is still a solid veteran #5 who teams play 18+ minutes a night year after year. That's all he will asked to be here and I don't think the cliff is falling off that fast that he won't be a capable bottom pair D. Lehtonen is just tearing up the KHL and has been doing so for some time. He may be a rookie, but he is 26 years old with tons of pro experience and it would not surprise me in the least for him to have a lot bigger than a bottom pair impact next year which is what makes him so appealing.

G: Shestyorkin has had success at every level he has played at for years. Just because he only has 12 (very good) games in the NHL doesn't make me doubt his ability for next year any less. Personally, I have him as a top-10 goalie for next year and was thrilled to get him where I did. Bernier is a solid guy with lots of experience if he stumbles, but seeing as he has consistently been amazing for 4 years now, I highly doubt it.

TLDR; Loads of cup winning experience, back to back Conn Smythe winners, proven chemistry in top-6, strong forward depth, best defenseman in the game, potential high impact rookie at every position. This team has a nice mix of skills, very few holes and everything needed to win a cup.

The thing you need to remember with goalies is that SOOOOOO many have had 1 good year sandwiched by bad years. For this reason most of us discount a goalie with "potential" to be a game changer for ones that have proven to be game changers in previous years, even after a down year for them(example Holtby). It's also a reason why I don't consider Demko a starter in this game, despite a decent season last year and that fact that he destroyed Vegas in the playoffs. I am also a huge Demko fan.

 

[Paralyzer008]

So just to tally, we have done 6 of these in 2020, winners so far:

Nucker
McMullet
Neo
Tryamkin
Panda/Nucker
Mope or Avery?

Just to keep track.

BeLeafing won the U26
Llama won the auction.

 

[Gecklund]

So just to tally, we have done 6 of these in 2020, winners so far:

Nucker
McMullet
Neo
Tryamkin
Panda/Nucker
Mope or Avery?

Just to keep track.

BeLeafing won the U26
Llama won the auction.

You can add my name to the list cause obviously I’m winning the next one

 

[hockeynorth]

So just to tally, we have done 6 of these in 2020, winners so far:

Nucker
McMullet
Neo
Tryamkin
Panda/Nucker
Mope or Avery?

Just to keep track.

BeLeafing won the U26
Llama won the auction.

Avery has won 2 super drafts

I also forget the Tryamkin win game

I think thats the one I said F it and just tossed every pick away on weird players

 

[hockeynorth]

Updated yeahhhh thats the game I made this:

Andrew Mangiapane - Claude Giroux - Patrick Kane
Jeff Skinner - Nick Suzuki - Zach Kassian
Sammy Blais - Mikko Koivu - Emil Bemström
Pierre Engvall - Nicolas Roy - Colton Sceviour

Ryan McDonagh - Brent Burns
Samuel Girard - Ethan Bear
Lawrence Pilut - Nikita Zaitsev

Phillip Grubauer
Anders Nilsson

Jesus did my plan ever go out the window (I dont remember picking Suzuki tho)

 

[hockeynorth]

The evolution of my teams over time:


Andrew Mangiapane - John Tavares - Sam Reinhart
Artemi Panarin - Paul Stastny - Conor Garland
JT Compher - Carl Soderberg - Marcus Foligno
Jansen Harkins - Jesperi Kotkainiemi - Nicholas Aube-Kubel

Mattias Ekholm - Jeff Petry
Adam Pelech - Adam Boqvist
Jon Merrill - Justin Schultz

Ben Bishop
Curtis McElhinney



Zach Sanford - Sebastian Aho - Mikko Rantanen
Jonathan Marchesseault - Ryan Getzlaf - Zach Hyman
Nikita Gusev - Nolan Patrick - Ryan Hartman
Brendan Lemieux - Jason Spezza - Troy Terry

Jake Muzzin - John Klingberg
Alexander Edler - Tyler Myers
Bowen Byram - Justin Braun

Corey Crawford
Chris Driedger


Andrew Mangiapane - Claude Giroux - Patrick Kane
Jeff Skinner - Nick Suzuki - Zach Kassian
Sammy Blais - Mikko Koivu - Emil Bemström
Pierre Engvall - Nicolas Roy - Colton Sceviour

Ryan McDonagh - Brent Burns
Samuel Girard - Ethan Bear
Lawrence Pilut - Nikita Zaitsev

Phillip Grubauer
Anders Nilsson


Robby Fabbri - Dylan Larkin - Andrei Svechnikov
Filip Forsberg - Ryan Johansen - Ondrej Kase
Joel Farabee - Travis Zajac - Jesper Fast
Maxime Comtois - Sam Steel - Jordan Kyrou

Duncan Keith - Cale Makar
Zdeno Chara - Henri Jokijarhu
Danny DeKeyser - Zach Whitecloud

Jacob Markstrom
Aaron Dell


Brady Tkachuk - Ryan Strome - Andrei Svechnikov
Kevin Fiala - Brian Little - Kailer Yamamoto
Dominik Kubalik - Erik Haula - Filip Zadina
Yakov Trenin - Johan Larsson - Ryan Hartman

Ryan Suter - Erik Karlsson
Danny DeKeyser - PK Subban
Mike Matheson - Ilya Lyubushkin

Antti Raanta
Chris Driedger


Brandon Saad - Brayden Point - Vladimir Tarasenko
Ryan Dzingel - Phillip Danault - Kevin Fiala
James Neal - Joe Thornton - Luke Kunin
Morgan Frost - Artem Anisimov - Alex Nylander

Rasmus Dahlin - Erik Cernak
Marcus Pettersson - Adam Larsson
Rasmus Sandin - Mark Pysyk

Mackenzie Blackwood
James Reimer


Jesper Bratt - Anze Kopitar - Brendan Gallagher
Kevin Labanc - Kevin Hayes - Cam Atkinson
Bobby Ryan - Dylan Strome - James Neal
Max Jones - Jason Spezza - Nicolas Aube-Kubel

Josh Morrissey - Seth Jones
Devon Toews - MacKenzie Weegar
Marc Staal - Stephen Johns

Corey Crawford
James Reimer


Micheal Ferland - Steven Stamkos - Vladimir Tarasenko
Matthew Tkachuk - Mikael Backlund - Ilya Kovalchuk
Lawson Crouse - Charlie Coyle - Gabriel Vilardi
Zach Aston-Reese - Mitchell Stephens - Ryan Reaves

Duncan Keith - Neal Pionk
Joel Edmundson - Jason Demers
Mike Reilly - Robert Bortuzzo

John Gibson
Adin Hill

Conclusions:
- I still LOVE that winger crazy team, @m0pe sabotaged it telling me to take DeKeyser
- I still think I should've won with my 2nd team (Kopitar)
- I build bad defences
- I forgot @m0pe tricked me into trading Draisaitl for Larkin or whatever tf I did there
- I was ahead of the curve in game 1, screw defence
- Don't trust @m0pe

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

The evolution of my teams over time:


Andrew Mangiapane - John Tavares - Sam Reinhart
Artemi Panarin - Paul Stastny - Conor Garland
JT Compher - Carl Soderberg - Marcus Foligno
Jansen Harkins - Jesperi Kotkainiemi - Nicholas Aube-Kubel

Mattias Ekholm - Jeff Petry
Adam Pelech - Adam Boqvist
Jon Merrill - Justin Schultz

Ben Bishop
Curtis McElhinney



Zach Sanford - Sebastian Aho - Mikko Rantanen
Jonathan Marchesseault - Ryan Getzlaf - Zach Hyman
Nikita Gusev - Nolan Patrick - Ryan Hartman
Brendan Lemieux - Jason Spezza - Troy Terry

Jake Muzzin - John Klingberg
Alexander Edler - Tyler Myers
Bowen Byram - Justin Braun

Corey Crawford
Chris Driedger


Andrew Mangiapane - Claude Giroux - Patrick Kane
Jeff Skinner - Nick Suzuki - Zach Kassian
Sammy Blais - Mikko Koivu - Emil Bemström
Pierre Engvall - Nicolas Roy - Colton Sceviour

Ryan McDonagh - Brent Burns
Samuel Girard - Ethan Bear
Lawrence Pilut - Nikita Zaitsev

Phillip Grubauer
Anders Nilsson


Robby Fabbri - Dylan Larkin - Andrei Svechnikov
Filip Forsberg - Ryan Johansen - Ondrej Kase
Joel Farabee - Travis Zajac - Jesper Fast
Maxime Comtois - Sam Steel - Jordan Kyrou

Duncan Keith - Cale Makar
Zdeno Chara - Henri Jokijarhu
Danny DeKeyser - Zach Whitecloud

Jacob Markstrom
Aaron Dell


Brady Tkachuk - Ryan Strome - Andrei Svechnikov
Kevin Fiala - Brian Little - Kailer Yamamoto
Dominik Kubalik - Erik Haula - Filip Zadina
Yakov Trenin - Johan Larsson - Ryan Hartman

Ryan Suter - Erik Karlsson
Danny DeKeyser - PK Subban
Mike Matheson - Ilya Lyubushkin

Antti Raanta
Chris Driedger


Brandon Saad - Brayden Point - Vladimir Tarasenko
Ryan Dzingel - Phillip Danault - Kevin Fiala
James Neal - Joe Thornton - Luke Kunin
Morgan Frost - Artem Anisimov - Alex Nylander

Rasmus Dahlin - Erik Cernak
Marcus Pettersson - Adam Larsson
Rasmus Sandin - Mark Pysyk

Mackenzie Blackwood
James Reimer


Jesper Bratt - Anze Kopitar - Brendan Gallagher
Kevin Labanc - Kevin Hayes - Cam Atkinson
Bobby Ryan - Dylan Strome - James Neal
Max Jones - Jason Spezza - Nicolas Aube-Kubel

Josh Morrissey - Seth Jones
Devon Toews - MacKenzie Weegar
Marc Staal - Stephen Johns

Corey Crawford
James Reimer


Micheal Ferland - Steven Stamkos - Vladimir Tarasenko
Matthew Tkachuk - Mikael Backlund - Ilya Kovalchuk
Lawson Crouse - Charlie Coyle - Gabriel Vilardi
Zach Aston-Reese - Mitchell Stephens - Ryan Reaves

Duncan Keith - Neal Pionk
Joel Edmundson - Jason Demers
Mike Reilly - Robert Bortuzzo

John Gibson
Adin Hill

Conclusions:
- I still LOVE that winger crazy team, @m0pe sabotaged it telling me to take DeKeyser
- I still think I should've won with my 2nd team (Kopitar)
- I build bad defences
- I forgot @m0pe tricked me into trading Draisaitl for Larkin or whatever tf I did there
- I was ahead of the curve in game 1, screw defence
- Don't trust @m0pe

Buffalo team is legit I remember how much I hate that third line though lmao

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

Alex Galchenyuk (4.900)	Pierre-Luc Dubois (0.894)	Mark Stone (9.500)
Denis Gurianov (0.894)	Anthony Cerelli (0.728)	Tom Wilson (5.166)
Miles Wood (2.750)	Nick Bonino (4.100)	Joel Armia (1.900)
Nicolas Deslauriers (0.950)	Brandon Sutter (4.375)	Blake Comeau (2.400)

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Roman Josi (4.000)	Chris Tanev (4.450)
Ryan Murray (4.600)	Adam Fox (0.925)
Jonas Siegenthaler (0.714)	Stephen Johns (2.350)

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Tristian Jarry (0.675) —————————- Semyon Varlamov (5.000)

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Cap Hit: 61.721
Cap Ceiling: 83.000
Cap Space: 21.729

Power Play:

Wilson
Stone - Dubois - Gurianov
Josi

Bonino
Armia - Galchenyuk - Cerelli
Fox

Penalty Kill Pairs:

Cerelli - Wilson
Bonino - Armia
Sutter - Comeau

Murray - Tanev
Josi - Johns

Game one, like the roster just wish I wasn’t so frugal. How little we knew back then.

Alex Killorn	Nicklas Backstrom	Reilly Smith
Kappo Kakko	Nazem Kadri	Colin White
Andrew Coglino	Carl Soderberg	Jesper Fast
Jujhar Khaira	Johan Larsson	Evan Rodrigues

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Esa Lindell	John Carlson
Jakob Chychrun	Tyler Myers
Ron Hainsey	Nick Jensen

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Robin Lehner

Matt Murray

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Cap Hit: 76.075
Cap Ceiling: 79.500
Cap Space: 3.425

Ah yes I think I threw in the towel like half way through this game, what an awful roster.

Evander Kane	Dylan Larkin	TJ Oshie
Alex Killorn	Bo Horvat	Calle Jarnkrok
Zach Sanford	Jason Dickinson	Barclay Goodrow
Antoine Roussel	Lucas Wallmark	Ryan Carpenter

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Jake Muzzin	Alex Pietrangelo
Zdeno Chara	Erik Johnson
Patrick Nemeth	Nikita Zaitsev

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Tristan Jarry

James Reimer

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Cap Hit: 69.575
Salary Cap: 70.000
Cap Space: 0.425

Boring roster but pretty decent, screwed up not getting a puck mover for the second pair.

Zach Hyman	Ryan O’Reilly	Blake Wheeler
Dominik Kubalik	Brayden Schenn	Gustav Nyquist
Chandler Stephenson	Pavel Zacha	Ryan Hartman
Greg McKegg	Pierre-Édouard Bellemare	Dylan Gambrell

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Jakub Chychrun	Jacob Trouba
Ben Chiarot	Scott Mayfeild
Jordan Oesterle	Alex Biega

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Sergei Bobrovski

Jack Campbell

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Cap Hit: 69.500
Cap Ceiling: 70.000
Cap Space: 0.500

Same deal as above lacking puck movers. Just remember Bob getting absolutely crapped on, probably deservedly so.

JT Miller	Sidney Crosby	Jake Virtanen
Evander Kane	Jean Gabriel Pageau	Josh Bailey
Richard Panik	Jason Dickinson	Corey Perry
William Carrier	Thomas Nosek	Austin Watson

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Morgan Reilly	Chris Tanev
Oliver Ekman- Larsson	Erik Johnson
Dan Hamhuis	Connor Carrick

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Pavel Francouz

Thomas Greiss

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Cap Hit: 69.700
Cap Ceiling: 70.000
Cap Space: 0.300

Jonathan Drouin	Brayden Schenn	Patrick Laine
Anthony Duclair	Robert Thomas	Tom Wilson
Miles Wood	Oscar Sundqvist	Colin White
Jujhar Khaira	Cody Eakin	Garnet Hathaway

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Miro Heiskanen	Brett Pesce
Hampus Lindholm	PK Subban
Lawrence Pilut	Deryk Engelland

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Brayden Holtby

Alex Stalock

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Cap Hit: 69.731
Cap Ceiling: 70.000
Cap Space: 0.269

Really liked my first roster, picked up the second one half way through but still turned out alright

 

[Llamamoto]

So just to tally, we have done 6 of these in 2020, winners so far:

Nucker
McMullet
Neo
Tryamkin
Panda/Nucker
Mope or Avery?

Just to keep track.

BeLeafing won the U26
Llama won the auction.

I always seem to lose to whoever wins these games.

Nucker - Lost to him in the semis
McMullet - Made the playoffs, lost to him in the 1st round
Neo - Lost to him in the quarterfinals
Tryamkin - No
Panda/Nucker - No
Mope or Avery - Lost to m0pe in the semis, lost with my other team to Avery in the 1st round of the playoffs
Avery (Super Team) - Lost to him in round of 16
Avery (Super Team) - Lost to him in semis
BeLeafing (U26) - Lost to him in round 2 by one vote
Llama (Auction) -

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

I always seem to lose to whoever wins these games.

Nucker - Lost to him in the semis
McMullet - Made the playoffs, lost to him in the 1st round
Neo - Lost to him in the quarterfinals
Tryamkin - No
Panda/Nucker - No
Mope or Avery - Lost to m0pe in the semis, lost with my other team to Avery in the 1st round of the playoffs
Avery (Super Team) - Lost to him in round of 16
Avery (Super Team) - Lost to him in semis
BeLeafing (U26) - Lost to him in round 2 by one vote
Llama (Auction) -

I think its payback for when you blew my team out of the water like three times in a row lmao

 

[hockeynorth]

Our winner...

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

Our winner...

I’d like to thank the following people for their undying support in my run to the cup

1.

 

[Gecklund]

I’d like to thank the following people for their undying support in my run to the cup

1.

I voted for you... not in this matchup but the others

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

I voted for you... not in this matchup but the others

I appreciate your temporary support!

 

[DropTheGloves]

I’d like to thank the following people for their undying support in my run to the cup

1.

Congrats to the undisputed champ.

And you of course. Unfortunately daddy @m0pe came up short this time, but I have complete faith in his ability to bounce back and win this game (unless we play one another then **** him).

 

[m0pe]

I think this is the 3rd time I made it the finals in these, the 3rd time I had more in-house votes but the 3rd time I lost due to main board voters.

Oh well! Congrats to @AveryStar4Eva ...it ain't always pretty but the man just knows how to win.

 

[Paralyzer008]

Congrats @AveryStar4Eva!

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

I think this is the 3rd time I made it the finals in these, the 3rd time I had more in-house votes but the 3rd time I lost due to main board voters.

Oh well! Congrats to @AveryStar4Eva ...it ain't always pretty but the man just knows how to win.

Thanks @m0pe doing the in house voting this time around feels like you’re going to be an unstoppable force

 

[Panda Bear]

In a way, it's a shame we know whose team is whose.

 

[hockeynorth]

If there's sufficient interest (~20 GMs minimum) I can run a fantasy draft now that we have a good sample size of players for this season, we can use this thread for gauging interest rather than clutter the forum

 

[Llamamoto]

If there's sufficient interest (~20 GMs minimum) I can run a fantasy draft now that we have a good sample size of players for this season, we can use this thread for gauging interest rather than clutter the forum

I might be able to help run one.