Prospect Info: HF Bruins Top 25 Prospects: #7: SHOWDOWN
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Gator Mike
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I know Senyshyn has tools.
But I also know that Cehlarik's been a MUCH more productive AHL player, and I think he's played reasonably well when given a chance in Boston.
But I also know that Cehlarik's been a MUCH more productive AHL player, and I think he's played reasonably well when given a chance in Boston.
PlayMakers
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Cehlarik might get 2nd line duty in the NHL this year.
Senyshyn might get 2nd line duty in the AHL this year.
This is what it comes down to (for me). Cehlarik is NHL ready and hasn't looked out of place on Krejci's wing. Senyshyn is toolsy, but he is yet to prove he can even be a 2nd liner in the AHL.
Senyshyn might get 2nd line duty in the AHL this year.
This is what it comes down to (for me). Cehlarik is NHL ready and hasn't looked out of place on Krejci's wing. Senyshyn is toolsy, but he is yet to prove he can even be a 2nd liner in the AHL.
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I still like Senyshyn's upside much better than Cehlarik. I think an NHL calibre Seny is more of a benefit to the Bruins than an NHL calibre Pete. That's what it comes down to for me.
Cehlarik has done more...absolutely. But also was drafted two years earlier.
Cehlarik has done more...absolutely. But also was drafted two years earlier.
Picked Cehlarick simply because he is closer to ready now , but think by the end of there carers Senshyn will have been the better player
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I went with Senyshyn
I think he has more upside. I think of course he has the potential to fill a critical need. I also think he has the potential to be a productive player in a lesser role, IF he doesn't make it as a top 6 RW
With Cehlarik, I think he is more of a 2nd line or bust guy, and he has had opportunities there, and just haven't shown enough in those opportunities. It seems like people's rating of him is primarily based on how impressed they are with 4 points in 17 games of 2nd line duty
I think he has more upside. I think of course he has the potential to fill a critical need. I also think he has the potential to be a productive player in a lesser role, IF he doesn't make it as a top 6 RW
With Cehlarik, I think he is more of a 2nd line or bust guy, and he has had opportunities there, and just haven't shown enough in those opportunities. It seems like people's rating of him is primarily based on how impressed they are with 4 points in 17 games of 2nd line duty
UncleRico
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Senyshyn is also two years younger than cehlarik. Just because cehlarik is older and more nhl ready doesn’t mean he is a better prospect.
PlayMakers
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That’s not all I’m saying. I’m also questioning Senyshyn’s upside.
The kid scored 12 goals last year. When a goal scorer doesn’t score that gives me pause. I know Senyshyn didn’t see top6 minutes but there was a reason for that.
I see the tools, the size and speed, and the NHL comp I’ve always liked for Senyshyn is vintage Erik Cole. But Erik Cole without any hockey sense is Jason Chimera.
Chimera like Senyshyn was a point per game player in his draft+ years. Also, like Senyshyn he struggled to score his first year in the AHL.
FWIW, I’m not saying Senyshyn is a bust or that he’s going to be Jason Chimera, I’m just saying Senyshyn’s upside (for me at least) is in doubt and will remain in doubt until he starts producing. All players have a range of what they can become, and Senyshyn might still end up an Erik Cole type. I just think he needs to show more before he gets credit for it.
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Wasn't he asked to work on his defensive game and that's why is scoring was low? We all know he didn't get top 6 minutes nor did he get PP time. I know @BruinsNetwork had some good insight on this.
BruinsFanSince94
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I wish there was a way to see how Senyshyn did when he was moved up in the lineup. Wasn’t there a stretch where he did play top 6?
PlayMakers
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Yes he was. That's well known but it's not a get out of jail free card. He had to work on his overall game for a reason, and he didn't improve enough to finish as a regular in the top6. What if he doesn't improve?
Again, I'm not hating on the guy... I still have high hopes for him, I just think he has work to do to show he is in fact tracking towards a top6 NHL'er.
ON3M4N
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No it's not, but it also not a reason to knock him. I think everyone would agree that this is a big year for Senyshyn in finding out what we really having with him.
Jason Chimera has played over 1100 NHL hockey games. Really not a bad outcome at all.
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UncleRico
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He was too busy voting Emil for #9 over Lauzon, lauko, Axel Andersson and the 5-7 other prospects that are better than emil
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I’ve been convinced to switch from PC to ZS. But don’t feel strongly about it. PC needs to be healthy and play quicker. I agree with others above that PC is kinda 2nd line or bust (at least on a good team). I’m not counting on ZS to suddenly become a hockey IQ genius, but him using his speed for Grabner results or Paille results is a wide margin...but it is a wide margin at the NHL level. And I do think he can be at least Paille. And PC could be in Europe in a couple years.
That isn’t exactly a fair way to measure or judge Senyshyn’s level of improvement. He did improve upon his 200-foot game substantially, while still providing pretty good secondary-scoring.
I’ve touched upon Senyshyn’s situation many times here, so I’ll save you all from having to read it again. With that being said, just because he didn’t finish in the top-six doesn’t mean he wasn’t ready or good enough for it. There were other factors, players and coaches involved which had an effect on the situation.
I watched almost every single game Senyshyn played this year, and I can say without a doubt that he looked like a top-six forward.
The team has a plan for him and they are sticking to it. Player development isn’t nesseceraily black & white, nor is it defined by point-totals after Y1 in the AHL.
To sum up the original question that brought me in here— I’m not worried about Senyshyn and look forward to seeing him play in the top-six this year for Providence. He’s going to impress many people.
DKH
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When Senyshyn makes it I recommend those that don’t have me on ignore use it or PM the mods to have me permanently banned because I am going to be riding this baby
I hope Fire Sweeney’s mother lets him come here for a verbal beatdown
I hope Fire Sweeney’s mother lets him come here for a verbal beatdown
DKH
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I’m looking forward to watching him play and seeing what a year under his belt, an offseason of training and s year older can do
A dozen goals as a 20 year old with no Power play time on lower lines not GARBAGE
Zboril Senyshyn Cehlarik JFK Lauzon Fitzgerald Vaakanainen Hughes Frederic etc
Providence going to be interesting
KnightofBoston
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Well I think what you have to say is you hope Senyshyn is better than Cehlarik in the long run but right now I’m not sure how you elevate him over Cehlarik. Ones played well in the NHL one is working his way up to becoming a complete player but hasn’t shown what he can do in the NHL yet
DKH
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I thought Cehlarik was incredible when I watched him in October in Providence
Skating and durability seem issues
He’s very impressive skills
His play along well is A+
Size
Hockey sense
Such a weird guy to project but so enticing
DeBrusk-Krejci- Cehlarik
Would be interesting
Skating and durability seem issues
He’s very impressive skills
His play along well is A+
Size
Hockey sense
Such a weird guy to project but so enticing
DeBrusk-Krejci- Cehlarik
Would be interesting
