News Article: Hextall on deadline "We're not buying"

[tymed]

Genuinely curious but what are Flyers fans opinions on Giroux? Do you think he's on a decline in any sort of way? Would you be very upset if they traded him away?

He's started to decline and anyone who doesn't think so needs to tone down their orange glasses, however his power play skillset will continue to flourish through until he leaves the league. That being said, we simply can't trade him. I can't imagine this team winning a single game without him, barely joking. As is the same forever now, this team goes as Giroux goes.

 

[Stizzle]

He's started to decline and anyone who doesn't think so needs to tone down their orange glasses, however his power play skillset will continue to flourish through until he leaves the league. That being said, we simply can't trade him. I can't imagine this team winning a single game without him, barely joking. As is the same forever now, this team goes as Giroux goes.

You may have your orange glasses on as well, bud.

 

[tymed]

You may have your orange glasses on as well, bud.

Ya, in what sense would that be?

 

[Striiker]

But people who really know hockey would say of course I would trade him for the right deal but the odds of that occurring are really small considering center is an organizational weak spot.

Which is why I didnt even bother mentioning it.

It's like saying "I wouldn't trade Provorov unless it was a massive overpayment". Well of course, but that's not happening.

 

[Stizzle]

Ya, in what sense would that be?

You basically admitted Giroux is a declining player and a PP specialist.
Yet you say we couldn't possibly ever win without him. That's such a bizarre statement. Over the top glowing praise for a guy who scores at 5v5 like a bottom of the roster forward. I'm sure whoever Hextall traded him for (a Galchenyuk type for instance) would replace him just fine. He's not irreplaceable like you seem to suggest.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

We're not getting a Galchenyuk type for Giroux. It makes no sense for Montreal to do that. Now getting Giroux to pair with Galchenyuk makes sense for Montreal if they can swing it. Otherwise what's the point.

 

[phil162888]

We're not getting a Galchenyuk type for Giroux. It makes no sense for Montreal to do that. Now getting Giroux to pair with Galchenyuk makes sense for Montreal if they can swing it. Otherwise what's the point.

I think the Habs would want G desperately (if available) and might consider giving up Galchenyuk but I agree the value would be if G and Galchenyuk are your #1 and #2. i think Toronto (which would kill me) Winnipeg, Ottawa, Columbus and Buffalo would be the best bets and you'd probably get great return as they all have good young assets. St Louis is another team that could use him but i'm not sure if they have what we want from a young asset perspective. I'd prefer to keep G as I still think he's an amazing player and a great leader but he's definitely not having a good season at all

 

[Stizzle]

We're not getting a Galchenyuk type for Giroux. It makes no sense for Montreal to do that. Now getting Giroux to pair with Galchenyuk makes sense for Montreal if they can swing it. Otherwise what's the point.

The specific player was not the crux of my post. The point was to say he is replaceable and that saying we wouldn't win a game without him is outlandish.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

The specific player was not the crux of my post. The point was to say he is replaceable and that saying we wouldn't win a game without him is outlandish.

Unless you're hell bent on getting of him I just don't see you getting a return that makes it worth it to move on from him right now. He's coming off a bad year & he's making a lot of money for another 5 years. I just don't see a team giving up a high price & taking on his contract as it's not easy to fit in.

 

[tymed]

You basically admitted Giroux is a declining player and a PP specialist.
Yet you say we couldn't possibly ever win without him. That's such a bizarre statement. Over the top glowing praise for a guy who scores at 5v5 like a bottom of the roster forward. I'm sure whoever Hextall traded him for (a Galchenyuk type for instance) would replace him just fine. He's not irreplaceable like you seem to suggest.

Giroux deserves the benefit of the doubt in especially this year, at least to me. He's been carrying this team for years with little impact help around him. Admitting that he's declining, which is all I said, isn't saying he's worth little or won't bounce back. I also never called him a PP specialist regardless of how you took it. There's no way someone is going to take on a contract his size and give up enough to essentially replace his value to our roster in return. Our powerplay is our lifeline and as long as we have Giroux here then we have that. If I were to ever go and suggest that he was a PP specialist, I'd have to term him a 1-man powerplay. His unparalleled ability on the man advantage is simply unique--It simply can't be replaced.

If we're to bolster our weakness at center, the real only logical way to go about it would be dealing from our wings, where our strength and depth is. We have several options there.

 

[KrazyKat]

Claude Giroux to ARZ Strome
B. Schenn + Hagg COL Duchene
Sign : Ben Bishop 10M(2Years) + Patrick Marleau 11M(2Years)
Let all UFA's Walk.


Marleau--Duchene---Simmonds
Lindblom--Couturier--Voracek
Konecny--Strome--Raffl
Laughton--Rubstov--Weise

Provorov--Myers
Sanheim--Gostisbehere
Morin--Gudas
Manning

Bishop
Stolarz

 

[Tripod]

You are one Krazy Kat. Would not even think of trading G for Strome. And why would AZ was a 29 year old C??? Only a contender or a team who wants to be a contender would want him.

 

[kelmitchell]

Claude Giroux to ARZ Strome
B. Schenn + Hagg COL Duchene
Sign : Ben Bishop 10M(2Years) + Patrick Marleau 11M(2Years)
Let all UFA's Walk.


Marleau--Duchene---Simmonds
Lindblom--Couturier--Voracek
Konecny--Strome--Raffl
Laughton--Rubstov--Weise

Provorov--Myers
Sanheim--Gostisbehere
Morin--Gudas
Manning

Bishop
Stolarz

Dude.... You cant be ****ing serious.....this has to be a damn joke... Just no

 

[deadhead]

You obviously haven't seen a Krazykat proposal before.
Just say no.

 

[backburner]

giroux won't waive for arizona

 

[flyershockey]

I'm going to wait until next year before I start talking about a Giroux decline. I believe Getzlaf had the same surgery as Giroux a couple of years ago, and he followed it up with the worst season of his career. Obviously, he recovered the following year.

 

[Striiker]

I'm going to wait until next year before I start talking about a Giroux decline. I believe Getzlaf had the same surgery as Giroux a couple of years ago, and he followed it up with the worst season of his career. Obviously, he recovered the following year.

If Ghost and Giroux bounce back next year it's probably safe to say their matching surgeries were the issue.

 

[Rebels57]

Claude Giroux to ARZ Strome
B. Schenn + Hagg COL Duchene
Sign : Ben Bishop 10M(2Years) + Patrick Marleau 11M(2Years)
Let all UFA's Walk.


Marleau--Duchene---Simmonds
Lindblom--Couturier--Voracek
Konecny--Strome--Raffl
Laughton--Rubstov--Weise

Provorov--Myers
Sanheim--Gostisbehere
Morin--Gudas
Manning

Bishop
Stolarz

Please stop the madness.

 

[Bobby Orr's Knees]

Claude Giroux to ARZ Strome
B. Schenn + Hagg COL Duchene
Sign : Ben Bishop 10M(2Years) + Patrick Marleau 11M(2Years)
Let all UFA's Walk.


Marleau--Duchene---Simmonds
Lindblom--Couturier--Voracek
Konecny--Strome--Raffl
Laughton--Rubstov--Weise

Provorov--Myers
Sanheim--Gostisbehere
Morin--Gudas
Manning

Bishop
Stolarz

This makes zero sense for everyone involved. And don't get me started on Bishop.

 

[BritainStix]

Guys it's KrazyKat,

He posts like 50 of these utterly stupid proposals a season.

 

[Flyerfan13]

I am wondering how much the ahl playoff roster rules will affect how much hextall can realistically trade away. I don't remember all the rules but u may see weal and maybe others sent to the phantoms Wednesday. to be playoff roster eligible nhl players must be on the phantoms roster at 3pm Wednesday There r also rules on the number of players that the flyers can call up after that day and time I think it's 4? But there is an emergency player call up clause also.

 

[Curufinwe]

Can Weal be sent down without going thru waivers? I think he can:

https://www.capfriendly.com/waivers-faq

Exemptions

A player does not need to pass through waivers if the player has not been on the NHL active roster for a cumulative 30 days since last clearing waivers, and has not played in 10 or more NHL games.

 

[Flyerfan13]

Not sure but weal did pass thru waivers once this season I think the rule has changed from years passed that a player only has to pass thru once a season but I could be wrong. What is interesting is I do believe provorov and Konecny could be a paper transaction on wednesday(sent to the phantoms fir a day) and play for the phantoms in the playoffs as they r not waiver eligible not sure hextall would do that though.
I may be wrong about tk and provorov they may not qualify for the ahl due to their age.

 

[deadhead]

They're not sending Konency and Provorov to the AHL for any reason and risk injury in meaningless games.

Weal maybe, depending on whether they think he's earned a starting spot, if they see him as a 13th forward they might want to keep him eligible for AHL playoffs.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Not sure but weal did pass thru waivers once this season I think the rule has changed from years passed that a player only has to pass thru once a season but I could be wrong. What is interesting is I do believe provorov and Konecny could be a paper transaction on wednesday(sent to the phantoms fir a day) and play for the phantoms in the playoffs as they r not waiver eligible not sure hextall would do that though.
I may be wrong about tk and provorov they may not qualify for the ahl due to their age.

We discussed this before & I believe the issue would be that since they're still junior aged players they'd have to be offered back to their junior team if they were still playing. Sarina (Konecny) isn't any good & Brandon (Provorov) should go a couple of rounds in their playoffs at least.

I don't think you'd see either two there with or without the legality of it though. My guess is Provorov is with Russia for the World Championships & Konecny's sent off for his offseason.