Hextall. An amazing job.
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Captain Dave Poulin
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I agree with you, BUT the huge caveat is the coaching situation. Hakstok was a good idea that hasn't worked out. I don't really blame him for not firing the clown yet - there is nothing in the world that I want more than for Hexy to fire him, but I can understand not doing it yet - but if he gets extended ... I don't know. If that happens, it's rampage time, for sure, but it feels like that's not enough.
FlyTimmo
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+Drafting: Other than Laberge and potentially Rubstov, Hextall's drafting resume has been immaculate.
+Contract extensions: This has been difficult to evaluate, but so far has done great. Gostisbehere's contract is unbelievably good.
- Coaching staff: Hakstol, Lavi, Gordon all range from disappointing to disasters. And his commitment to incompetence has been annoying to say the least. This is Hextall's biggest flaw.
- Pro player evaluation: Excluding Myers, MDZ has been the only successful signing to date. Hopefully JVR redeems this facet of Hextalls GM tenure.
+Contract extensions: This has been difficult to evaluate, but so far has done great. Gostisbehere's contract is unbelievably good.
- Coaching staff: Hakstol, Lavi, Gordon all range from disappointing to disasters. And his commitment to incompetence has been annoying to say the least. This is Hextall's biggest flaw.
- Pro player evaluation: Excluding Myers, MDZ has been the only successful signing to date. Hopefully JVR redeems this facet of Hextalls GM tenure.
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Tripod
I hate this team
Seems like it's time for the update!!! Let me know if any changes should be made.
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| Since Hextall took over: | |||||
| Year 1&2 | |||||
| Traded Hartnell for Umberger+4th(Wagner flipped for Vorobyev+Salintri…who was not signed) | |||||
| Traded McGinn for a 3rd(Sandstrom)…McGinn waived by SJ months later | |||||
| Signed MDZ | |||||
| Signed Schultz | |||||
| Signed White | |||||
| Signed Bellemare | |||||
| Signed VDV | |||||
| Traded Coburn for 1st, 3rd(Tomek) + Gudas=Got Konecky by moving up+ Gudas has been great. | |||||
| Traded Timonen for 2 2nd rounders=fantastic value, used 1 pick to move up for Konecny, the other for Allison | |||||
| Signed Danick Martel for free=QMJHL 2nd leading scorer...worth a shot | |||||
| Traded Rinaldo for 3rd(Ustimenko) Rinaldo later waived | |||||
| Traded Grossmann + Pronger for Gagner + 4th(traded to NYI for 4th in 2017…then used in package for Ratcliffe) | |||||
| Signed Medvedev=a good KHL player for free…didn't work out | |||||
| Signed Neuvirth for free=shored up the backup G situation for the next 2 years then resigned for 2 more years | |||||
| Fired Berube…Flyers fans rejoice | |||||
| Hired Hakstol | |||||
| Signed Marti | |||||
| Signed Bardreau | |||||
| Signed undrafted 6'5 RHD Philip Myers for free…QMJHL All Star 2016, WJC as well | |||||
| Traded Vinny and LSchenn for Weal + 3rd(Twarynski) | |||||
| Got us into the playoffs 2016 | |||||
| Signed top College FA G Lyon for free | |||||
| Added Goalie Coach Brady Robinson | |||||
| Added AHL coach Scott Gordon | |||||
| Oversaw 2 drafts and had these 7 guys at the WJC this year(2015/16): | |||||
| Provorov: named CHL Dman of the year…now in NHL | |||||
| Sanheim: highest PPG in the WHL in 20 years for a Dman, Now in NHL | |||||
| Konecny: great draft+1 season…now in NHL | |||||
| Lindblom: highest scoring U20 in SHL, SHL Forward of the year, now in NHL | |||||
| Fazleev: over PPG in WHL, now in AHL | |||||
| Sandstrom: made WJC multiple times, Named top Goalie at WJC…still in SHL | |||||
| Kase: Over PPG in MH...made WJC multiple times…now in AHL | |||||
| Plus drafted: | |||||
| Aube Kubel: over PPG in QMJHL…now in AHL…top ES scorer | |||||
| Friedman: WCHA All Star Dman…now in AHL | |||||
| Tomek: injured all season, made WJC…now in USHL | |||||
| Dove McFalls: poor pick...not signed | |||||
| Vorobyov: Was #1C at WJC for Russia….now in AHL | |||||
| Marody:traded for a 3rd in 2019) | |||||
| Fedotov: long term G prospect…in VHL | |||||
| Pettersson: played in AHL, then back to SHL | |||||
| Year 3 | |||||
| Drafted in 2016: | |||||
| Rubstov: made WJC….now in AHL | |||||
| Laberge: CHL All Star Game MVP…not playing to expectations…AHL? | |||||
| Hart: 2 time CHL goalie of the Year….WJC goalie and gold winner…AHL? | |||||
| Allison: USHL Playoff MVP, great start to season, got hurt…college again | |||||
| Twarynski: great season…AHL | |||||
| Bunnaman: Captain Dave Poulin's obsession | |||||
| Hogberg: SHL regular, WJC player | |||||
| Laczynski: Made WJC, had great season…college again | |||||
| Salinitri: not signed | |||||
| Bernhardt: Made WJC, SHL regular | |||||
| Signed Weise for free…has played below expectations | |||||
| Signed Gordon for free…played below expectations…waived | |||||
| Added Huffman to handle the D in AHL | |||||
| Signed AHL players in Brennan, O'Neill, and Miele | |||||
| Signed Lyubimov for free…did not work out | |||||
| Traded Streit for Filppula+4th(Sushko)+7th(Kalynuk) | |||||
| Signed Vecchione as a UFA College player, in AHL doing well | |||||
| Named Kris Knoblauch assistant coach | |||||
| Year 4 | |||||
| Traded Cousins+Madsen for Warren+5th(Wylie) | |||||
| Traded B Schenn for 2 1st rounders-Frost+ 1st(Farabee) | |||||
| Re-Signed Weal | |||||
| Re-signed Neuvirth | |||||
| Signed Elliott | |||||
| Signed Varone for AHL | |||||
| Signed Irving then traded him for Tokarski | |||||
| Drafted in 2017: | |||||
| Patrick: Now in NHL | |||||
| Frost: tore up the OHL | |||||
| Ratcliffe: Traded 3 picks for him: Westerlund+Schnarr+Hoefenmayer | |||||
| Ustimenko | |||||
| Strome | |||||
| Sushko | |||||
| Cates | |||||
| Lycksell | |||||
| Kalynuk | |||||
| Traded 3rd in 2018(Seth Barton) for Mrazek | |||||
| Claimed Oduya off waivers while losing Alt to waivers | |||||
| Year 5 | |||||
| Drafted in 2018 | |||||
| Farabee | |||||
| O'Brien | |||||
| Ginning | |||||
| St.Ivany | |||||
| Wylie | |||||
| Ersson | |||||
| Hain | |||||
| Westfalt | |||||
| Signed JVR |
ArchAngel55
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I was looking over their cap situation this year and next. At this point, they have over $34 million available after this year. Not including any rookies that make the team, signings, or the cap moving. They only have to re-sign Provorov, Konecny, Simmonds, Laughton, and figure out the goalie situation. They'll have some rookies replacing the lower guys who's contract will run out (Lehtera, Raffl, and Weal). They can move Simmonds to free up more space if needed. MacDonald will be going into his last year so he can be bought out or traded easier. Hextall has done a good job getting out of contracts and replenishing the prospect pool. They should be in a good spot for years. Only problem is the coaching.
Beef Invictus
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Coaching situation is full Hindenburg.
Juicy Pop
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Give it another year and all of the hydrogen will have been replaced with helium.
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Magua
Entirely Palatable Product
He litrully traded Schenn. You can stuff your "amazing jobs" in a sack, mister.
Beef Invictus
Revolutionary Positivity
When hexxy left for la i knew they were grooming him to take over. When they won out there my confidence in him greatly increased. I truly have faith hexxy is going to bring a parade down broad st.
Doodootheclown
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Lappy still being the PK coach is even more annoying to me than Hkstk. In terms of drafting, developing, roster/cap plan, Hexy has done an excellent job. No GM is going to hit on every decision. The good far outweighs the bad, imo. This year forward I think we will be able to start fully enjoying the fruits of the plan.
Don't care about anything except success on the ice, of which there's been none yet.
Until he delivers playoff Ws, I don't care how many paper victories he has or how well the cap's managed.
Until he delivers playoff Ws, I don't care how many paper victories he has or how well the cap's managed.
CS
Bryzgalov's Blueline
Let's say you have to move Schenn after a breakout season on the Flyers. Ignore why...just you have to move him. Does Farabee and Frost get it done for you?
Jtown
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i think its as simple as Giroux being healthy. Its not like giroux has never been good before.
CS
Bryzgalov's Blueline
There's also a ton of defensive pressure taken off his shoulders now that he's a winger.
He's 1) healthy, 2) unchained by defensive responsibilities, 3) given linemates who compliment him well.
It's a combination of a lot of things, but I agree that health is a major component in this.
Jtown
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I don't his defensive role was reduced as much asyou think. Claude had the lowest ozone start percentage of his career, and he took more draws than couturier. Clearly he has been moved off the pk , which may be a mistake . Physically Giroux looked better last year than at anytime since ive seen him play. I remarked on it after the first preseason game that i don't think i've ever seen him skate so fast.
CS
Bryzgalov's Blueline
That's fairly mindblowing. I didn't realize that this was a thing.
Good on Giroux then if health is 99% of his reawakening.
My biggest concern going forward is a situation like the postseason this year where Pens were just allowed to tee off on him constantly. If you shut down Giroux, you shut down our offense.
Hopefully a second line with JVR - NP - JV can take some pressure off G. If you can get some people worried about other players, it'll do wonders for G's longevity.
Jtown
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Its no surprise that if you pressure giroux on the half wall our pp becomes pathetic. That is where Pitt really dominated us. As far as even strength play , I felt giroux had more than ample opportunities, but he just looked off. He made some brutal turnovers that led directly to goals on many occassions. Coots played like a warrior and if g could have played with half as much heart and with a little luck and with no gudsas turnovers we could have won that series. But with the injuries to coots and provy maybe its a blessing we lost. either way I don't think you can read too much into that series with Pitt.
That is the one thing about Giroux that worries me going forward, as great as he is he can still be shutdown. you usually don't see that from the best of the best . I don't think he will have as much of the burnden on himself to put up the points like he did this year. I fully expect Patrick to step into the role of being a huge faciliator on offense.
bennysflyers16
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Good offseason so far , but Hak and Lappy still being employed and once again having bottom third NHL goaltenders has to be addressed are two massive negatives from a Hexy.
bennysflyers16
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I don't see it that way, I see it as G has no options. Smart teams will crowd G and Ghost on the PP and we struggle. The Pens were openly leaving Jake WIDE open as he is a low risk threat to score on the PP. his first option is always back to G or the cross crease pass and if it fails it usually leads to a zone clear.
A shooting threat on the right side will open up a lot of room for G and Ghost.
Jtown
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i don't neccessarily want giroux making that pass across the ice, that is good for every now and then but overtime that will lead to more turnovers. Ghost did a fine job handling the pressure, it was giroux that really struggled for whatever reason. He was off that series no doubt about it, but i am not going to overanalyze 6 games especially after the year he just had.
1865
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Ghost’s contract is cheaper and 2 years longer than De Haan’s. Let that one settle in.
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