Tribute Henrik Lundqvist Appreciation Thread

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Which resident buffoon will be the first to drop a “screw him for hiding this and screwing over the Rangers cap situation” hot take?
It's a legitimate question. Just saying that he has a heart condition could mean a variety of things. He could have high blood pressure, which is a cardio issue. I can't even blame Lundqvist or the Rangers since apparently the Caps doctors didn't pick up on it when he was given his physical upon signing his contract earlier this year. Hopefully, it's treatable. However, I think he is done career-wise. There are a lot of people that will be happy that he will never wear another uniform other than a Rangers uniform. Begrudgingly, I am one of them.
 

JT Kreider

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Not that, but I am curious to know how medical experts on the Rangers missed a heart condition the doctors in DC found months later.

it could be something minor/I am praying it is something minor that he would have been able to play through under normal circumstances but COVID changed things for him.
 

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it could be something minor/I am praying it is something minor that he would have been able to play through under normal circumstances but COVID changed things for him.

Yeah. I am not necessarily pointing fingers and stating anyone messed up. Just curious and questioning what could have caused this. It's entirely possible this was something acute or something that simply shows up only on major medical tests done on players when joining new organizations.
 

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A crazy thought I just had is how many people have these types of underlying heart conditions and have no clue because they don't have access to the best medical care in the world and get tests done on them because they're essentially million dollar investments.
 
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A crazy thought I just had is how many people have these types of underlying heart conditions and have no clue because they don't have access to the best medical care in the world and get tests done on them because they're essentially million dollar investments.

You didnt realize that months ago when Tom Hanks and Kevin Durant were the first high profile people to test positive for COVID and the rest of us normies were like "wait what you tested positive? You got a test?!?!?".
 

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I'd have underlying heart conditions too if I had to play behind the Rangers defense for 15 years, especially the last 5 years.
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While I was outside shoveling and worrying about having my own heart attack I was thinking about Lundqvist's situation. I am wondering if this current condition is an underlying consequence from the 2014 incident when he took the puck to the throat resulting in several arteries being bruised and restricting blood flow. I recall at the time they were very worried he could have a stroke. I was also wondering if the pause and the change in goal might have given his body a break that he needed. The thought of him with an underlying undiagnosed heart problem, still being the starter and dropping dead on the ice in absolutely horrifying to me. That brings back memories of when Cheropanov died.

I really hope Hank is going to be ok.
 

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Greatest goalie in Ranger history and one of the greatest of all-time. This might be it for Hank.
 

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Like I said in the other thread, by the time next season starts, Hank will have played only nine games in the last two years. That's a lot of time off.

Now with this news, it's likely he is done.
 

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Seems like NYR/Lundqvist were able to manage it well, and then sometime between the end of the season and these medical tests it got worse enough to side-line him.

Smart money would bet that way, IMO.
 

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if i were he, i would go out like a pro. ride off into the sunset and begin your second career. why chance something awful happening ?

guys got an almost complete resume, good looks and killer smile, a guaranteed job waiting for him and a terrific family.

its gonna be a good time to hang em up hank.

lets not let anything happen to hank that will remind us of alexei charepanov....
 
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if i were he, i would go out like a pro. ride off into the sunset and begin your second career. why chance something awful happening ?

guys got an almost complete resume, good looks and killer smile, a guaranteed job waiting for him and a terrific family.

its gonna be a good time to hang em up hank.

lets not let anything happen to hank that will remind us of alexei charepanov....
Agreed. You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Hank accomplished so much in his career. Had all the talent in the world, just very little luck. Sometimes the offense was mediocre, sometimes the defense sucked, the Rangers had bad luck in the 2014 SC Finals, and now this. It’s sad that he ended his Rangers career with a buyout that in hindsight, didn’t need to happen. And that will always bother some fans. However, he really needs to decide for himself if he’s good enough to play another NHL season after this one, or if it’s better to hang the skates up before he “sees himself become the villain.”

Regardless, I will always remember him for the amazing legacy he left behind. I just want others to do the same. I mean, how amazing was it that we didn’t have to worry about goaltending for the past 15 years, since we always had a chance with Hank?
 
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bern's track record confirms I am usually not at a loss for words.

However, I don't have much to add to the fine sentiments already expressed by others posted here.

Thanks Hank.
 

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Which resident buffoon will be the first to drop a “screw him for hiding this and screwing over the Rangers cap situation” hot take?

Not that, but I am curious to know how medical experts on the Rangers missed a heart condition the doctors in DC found months later.

Definitely a good question. There are however many heart conditions that are acute--something that maybe didn't exist a few months ago, or maybe he had an underlying condition that was not presenting symptoms and therefore was not detected on any of the "usual" tests that they're doing. Who knows.

Yeah, I am not saying the Rangers are at fault for not noticing it per se. But short of an acute heart condition, you'd expect a billion dollar organization to be able to detect these conditions.

Not that it really matters in the grand scheme of things, just something that popped in my head. The buy out isn't going to be affected by this.

No offense, but what does a “billion dollar organization” have to do with anything? They have been known to be a first class organization through and through, therefore I am sure they have the best doctors on retainer essentially. If the Doctor(s) miss this it would be on them, although I would not be finding fault with them either. Short of the Rangers organization, Henrik, and/or the Doctors hiding this, there is nothing to say other than it is extremely unfortunate and sad.

The value of the organization isn't really relevant. Sometimes, conditions are undetectable until you become symptomatic, and the doctors then know something is wrong and to run really advanced tests to see what's happening. I have several men on my father's side of the family that died of this sudden cardiac failure, and there was never any warning--the only way (apparently) to truly know you're at risk for the condition is to see if you have the genetic marker.

If Henrik has something unusual or that wouldn't be caught through routine physical testing performed on athletes, and presented no symptoms, it wouldn't be surprising for it to go undiagnosed. It happens all the time, to people from all walks of life, those with access to poor medical care or the best medical care.

I don't see any reason to go questioning what the Rangers did or did not do right until/unless something that comes out which warrants further inquiry.

It's a legitimate question. Just saying that he has a heart condition could mean a variety of things. He could have high blood pressure, which is a cardio issue. I can't even blame Lundqvist or the Rangers since apparently the Caps doctors didn't pick up on it when he was given his physical upon signing his contract earlier this year. Hopefully, it's treatable. However, I think he is done career-wise. There are a lot of people that will be happy that he will never wear another uniform other than a Rangers uniform. Begrudgingly, I am one of them.


So it was a known issue that either was worse than originally known, recently got worse, or given the potential cardiac-related impacts of COVID, was determined to be too great a risk.

Or, something else. Who knows.


Water under the bridge now.

Players hide injuries to the extent they can to prolong careers all the time.

That said, it is not clear that such reality applies here. What did Hank know, and when did he know it?
And what he knew, how definite was it? Or was it a situation in a state of flux, in which (as it seems to have been the case) there was a prior history of cardiac risk at some level, but which was manageable? To what extent, if any, did that narrative change?

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Every athlete who wins their job is required to keep it by performance, and the corollary to that is they are entitled to keep that job unless/until someone takes it away.

Hank enjoyed what he earned. Shesty showed up. Shesty was taking the starter's job. Hank wanted more starts as the starter.

My pref would have been to get good price for Geo, and keep King as backup.

Then if Hank can still cut it next year, as backup or even third string, keep him at league min. If he couldn't perform any more, I would expect him to be stand up and do a Gehrig and take himself out.

It would be nice if somehow, we could petition league office and say we were not fully, precisely informed, which impacted our decision making. Then request if we could on that basis, undo the buyout and then either LTIR or let Hank retire and we give him job w/the org with an understanding that if and when he can actually play again he gets fair shot open compete for whichever slotting he can earn. Win win. Unfortunately, too much bruhaha for NHL to approve.
 
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Hank to have heart surgery.


Wow, shit. That's scary. I have aortic regurgitation (very mild) and always feared it would get bad and I'd need to have this procedure--at least the aortic replacement component. IDK about the others. He may have aortic regurgitation or aortic stenosis that suddenly worsened. Both would lead to that or s similar procedure.

Just scary that it all developed to rapidly for him. Good luck, Hank.
 

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Any of the doctors on here wanna explain to me how serious this surgery is? Is it just to get him to a place where he won't need as much testing or observing from specialists about this problem, or has this become a more urgent problem now and it has to get taken care immediately?
 

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Any of the doctors on here wanna explain to me how serious this surgery is? Is it just to get him to a place where he won't need as much testing or observing from specialists about this problem, or has this become a more urgent problem now and it has to get taken care immediately?
It's a really serious surgery. I mean the chances of it killing him are very low, like less than one percent (he's not your typical patient). But it's heart surgery any way you look at it. I'm not any kind of expert, just someone who has passing familiarity with aortic replacement due to it being a possibility for me way down the road.

If he is having the procedures now, I would think there was an acute worsening of whatever his condition is or he had an event like an aortic aneurysm. But the aneurysm thing seems less likely since we've been told he's had a condition for a long time.

This wouldn't be a "maintenance" surgery, though. It would be done because of something pressing. Again--not a doctor, just someone who has a condition and who has dealt with a lot of cardiac-related issues in my family.
 

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