Player Discussion Henri Jokiharju

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  1. Dubi Doo

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    Figured we should start this thread since he's one of our top prospects now. Do most of us agree he's NHL ready? I like to believe, but he is very young.
     
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    Looks like he started last year with Chicago then was sent back down for the second half of the year. Wouldn't be super shocked if he starts the year in Rochester. Probably depends on what the defense looks like in training camp, he has a lot of competition right now.
     
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    I don't know if he'll start the season in Buffalo, but I'm convinced he'll end it there.
     
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    - Good trade
    - He managed to rob the mafia
    - I hope he starts in NHL
     
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    Guy was an NHL player last year and fell out of favor for no really good reason, then got pushed out by vet signings which will be worse than him.

    I hope the plan is to move Risto if the right deal is there and put this kid in the top 6 if not the top 4.
     
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    Henri Jokiharju believes joining Sabres 'a great opportunity' - Buffalo Hockey Beat

    Jokiharju experienced an interesting rookie season. He logged big minutes early beside defenseman Duncan Keith under former coach Joel Quenneville.

    But after Jeremy Colliton replaced Quenneville in November, Jokiharju’s ice time dwindled. In late January, shortly after returning from World Juniors, the Blackhawks sent him to the AHL, where he compiled two goals and 17 points in 30 outings.


    I know one of the Chicago writers for the Athletic mentioned asking Colliton repeatedly why Joker fell out of favor after the coaching change. He said he never got an answer.

    It could be as simple as slowing things down with his development.
     
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    As someone who saw Joker a ****ton here in Chicago last year, I say this with complete confidence.

    He is more than NHL ready. He will make the opening night roster, end the year as our top pair RHD by Dahlin and will remain there for the foreseeable future.

    I am beyond excited for this trade, and you should be too.
     
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    Doubt it, but were there any financial benefits to keeping him in the AHL after January? Or anything roster slot or cap related?

    Doubtful....
     
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    Loved this guy in the WJCs in his draft year. Supreme passer.

    Since then, his defensive game has taken several steps forward, and he's put on like 25 pounds.

    SOOOOO happy we acquired him. Didn't even think it was possible.
     
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    The year-end article on Henri -

    Henri Jokiharju's season is over in Rockford. Will he stick...
     
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    Other highlights from the trade thread -



     
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    He'll win a job in training camp.
     
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    If they had sent him down earlier they could have stopped him from getting an accrued season towards unrestricted free agency.
     
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    A lot will depend on who is still on the roster by then, unfortunately.

    If Risto (and/or Bogo) doesn’t get traded, I bet he starts in Rochester with Montour, Miller, Risto, Bogo, and Nelson also in the mix. Joker gets sent down until a D or two get hurt.
     
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    This is the stupidest approach towards roster building. I really hope they dont think in this way.
     
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    I’m on the fence regarding his status opening night. He’s one of the few defensemen that is waiver exempt (I think Pilut is the only other) with our plethora of dmen right now. With Bogo and Pilut out to start the season and a looming Risto trade a roster spot could open quickly.
     
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    Him and Pilut are the only two waiver exempt defensemen on the roster.
     
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    How is it stupid? If they haven't worked out a trade for decent value for either, then they would move the waiver exempt player if they need to. That seems like standard operating procedure for most NHL teams.
     
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    Retaining depth by sending players who don’t have to clear waivers to the AHL is an age old approach that lots of teams use to maintain quality depth throughout the organization.

    Giving away depth and having lesser players available when injuries inevitably strike is how teams get to the point where fans and media complain about a lack of depth.
     
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    Jim Bob Let's go, Buffalo!

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    I think there is another one.

    But, he’s not getting sent down. Ever.
     
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    I want the best players on the roster. Dont care about the sort of depth Nelson and Bogo provide if there is a better player to play. Also we will not lose Bogo...so what exactly are you worried about? Losing Casey Nelson??? Lol
     
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    I’d rather have Nelson as depth as opposed to a lot of the options the Sabres will be left with if they lose someone like Nelson on waivers.
     
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    There is a cascading effect if you send veteran, waiver eligible players down. If they get claimed then you have to find another player to replace him on the AHL team. If you're waiver exempt player (or any vet starter), that you have in Buffalo, gets hurt, then you have to move a prospect up that probably isn't ready to play. Then you have to find another player to take those minutes in the AHL. On top of that, most owners simply don't want to pay veteran players full salary to play in the minors.

    You can not like that all you want, but there are lots of practical reasons to take advantage of waiver exempt status, and it's not just millions of dollars.
     

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