Helm is optimistic

mindfly · Jun 5, 2013

Helm finally got some good news after the season ended, when he learned that he won't require offseason surgery and is expected back in training camp next fall.

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2013/06/red_wings_forward_darren_helm_2.html

Let's keep our fingers crossed that this will work out

Vladdy84 · Jun 5, 2013

I'll believe it when I see it. Again, excellent work Wings medical staff!

VladTheImpaler · Jun 5, 2013

I still don't know how this wasn't solved during the season. Someone on the training staff should be out of a job.

Kronwalled55 · Jun 5, 2013

*Looks at watch*

It's about damn time. I just want to see #43 on the ice again.

Shoalzie · Jun 5, 2013

Talk to me in September...

Goalie guy · Jun 5, 2013

I see nothing more than hope that he is any better, I hope he is but nothing in that sounds any different than what has been said before.

jaster · Jun 5, 2013

Vladdy84 said:
I'll believe it when I see it. Again, excellent work Wings medical staff!

VladTheImpaler said:
I still don't know how this wasn't solved during the season. Someone on the training staff should be out of a job.

He's seen what, 4 doctors now? A couple of which were specialists? If 4 doctors can't find a solution, what do you guys expect from the trainers? Blaming the Wings training/medical staff is beyond silly.

Flowah · Jun 5, 2013

I hope he's just not one of those injury prone guys....

The Zetterberg Era · Jun 5, 2013

jaster said:
He's seen what, 4 doctors now? A couple of which were specialists? If 4 doctors can't find a solution, what do you guys expect from the trainers? Blaming the Wings training/medical staff is beyond silly.

This situation not so much, but I have a problem with how are health has been deteriorating, we are in a Minnesota type situation. We just seem to always have guys hurt, that is a part of hockey, but would like to see some answers or fresh blood ideas being heard about. Just bothers me, is becoming a growing concern even if a lot of injuries in hockey aren't avoidable I would like to see them attempting more stuff to avoid this.

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Flowah said:
I hope he's just not one of those injury prone guys....

Ummm too late?

Run the Jewels · Jun 5, 2013

The Zetterberg Era said:
This situation not so much, but I have a problem with how are health has been deteriorating, we are in a Minnesota type situation. We just seem to always have guys hurt, that is a part of hockey, but would like to see some answers or fresh blood ideas being heard about. Just bothers me, is becoming a growing concern even if a lot of injuries in hockey aren't avoidable I would like to see them attempting more stuff to avoid this.

Please give us your views on sports medicine. We are all ears! :laugh:

TatarTangle · Jun 5, 2013

Might be able to get two or three seasons out of him, unfortunately. Anyone know how this train wreck actually started?

The Zetterberg Era · Jun 5, 2013

fabricoh said:
Please give us your views on sports medicine. We are all ears!

A lot of teams have full time acupuncturists now, do the Wings?

I just think when your team has this many injuries, there are things you could look at. Strength training you should be keeping an eye out for.

Maybe they are trying all these things, would love for them to comment on it. Think about the areas they can improve in terms of this.

Tonic · Jun 5, 2013

JDrake said:
Might be able to get two or three seasons out of him, unfortunately. Anyone know how this train wreck actually started?

Preseason weight room accident. My guess would be he hurt it doing squats, deadlifts, or cleans.

jaster · Jun 6, 2013

The Zetterberg Era said:
A lot of teams have full time acupuncturists now, do the Wings?

I just think when your team has this many injuries, there are things you could look at. Strength training you should be keeping an eye out for.

Maybe they are trying all these things, would love for them to comment on it. Think about the areas they can improve in terms of this.

The Wings have some of the very best in the business. The systems they have in place are on the leading edge of the industry. Injuries happen in hockey, and that's really all there is to it in this case.

TatarTangle · Jun 6, 2013

jaster said:
The Wings have some of the very best in the business. The systems they have in place are on the leading edge of the industry. Injuries happen in hockey, and that's really all there is to it in this case.

All the sports' teams in Detroit do. One of the on-site doctors for the Tigers comes into my work on a regular basis. One of the nicest, if not nicest, person I know. Luckily, I may have gotten some free medical advice without having to wait three hours :laugh:

I still have to get down to the DMC and shadow him on a graveyard emergency shift. The *&%^ I'd see he says, the &*#$ I'd see :laugh:

They are, without a doubt, in the best hands around.

Bench · Jun 6, 2013

The Zetterberg Era said:
A lot of teams have full time acupuncturists now, do the Wings?

Acupuncture has limited capabilities for pain management. That's about it. Other claimed benefits are either purely placebo or unproven. And such pain management can be achieved through more traditional means.

I understand folks might be frustrated that Helm can't play, but to throw the medical staff under the bus is irrational.

mindfly · Jun 6, 2013

JDrake said:
Might be able to get two or three seasons out of him, unfortunately. Anyone know how this train wreck actually started?

IIRC, it was whilst doing squats.... he probably didn't have proper form and maybe lifted too heavy and without a belt.

JPE123 · Jun 6, 2013

Bench said:
Acupuncture has limited capabilities for pain management. That's about it. Other claimed benefits are either purely placebo or unproven. And such pain management can be achieved through more traditional means.

I understand folks might be frustrated that Helm can't play, but to throw the medical staff under the bus is irrational.

Have a friend who went the acupuncture route for back pain. He ended up having surgery.

crashman · Jun 6, 2013

Reading clueless speculation about Helm's future has to be one of the most silly things I encounter on these message boards.

YOU GUYS HAVE NO CLUE WHAT HIS SITUATION IS!

Hammerheart · Jun 6, 2013

VladTheImpaler said:
I still don't know how this wasn't solved during the season. Someone on the training staff should be out of a job.

You just want to fire everyone huh?

sepster · Jun 6, 2013

The Zetterberg Era said:
A lot of teams have full time acupuncturists now, do the Wings?

I just think when your team has this many injuries, there are things you could look at. Strength training you should be keeping an eye out for.

Maybe they are trying all these things, would love for them to comment on it. Think about the areas they can improve in terms of this.

I think when your team is slower, smaller (and up until this year older) than most other teams in the league injuries are going to be a pretty big factor. Also, the Wings don't do a good job of "keeping the flies off" so teams take extra liberties with them. Over the course of a season all of these factors contribute to injuries.

EDIT: This, of course, doesn't have anything to do with Helm's injury but more so the Wings' entire injury situation.

bababooeyII · Jun 6, 2013

Sorry, until the diagnose the problem I am not optimistic. :shakehead

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