HckyFght*
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Goodenow should step aside, and Bettman must be fired. Then we'll get a deal.
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HckyFght said:Goodenow should step aside, and Bettman must be fired. Then we'll get a deal.
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dawgbone said:No we won't.
Bettman is doing what the BOG wants. He's not on his own and using mind control on them.
Goodenow is doing what the players want, which is allow them to maximize their earning potential.
They'll be replaced by guys who will do the same thing.
eye said:I agree that Bettman is following the mandate set out for him and is only the messenger in these negotiations while on the other hand I would disagree and say this is all Goodenow and he sways, intimidates and speaks totally on his own on behalf of the players who secretly would all vote to work under any form of cap that still pays them 53% of gross revenues.
bling said:Well that is very surprising to hear you say that "honest" Gary Bettman is only following his employers mandate whereas "evil manipulating" Bob Goodenow is ignoring the wishes of his emplyers and only speaking for his own agenda.
Do you have any idea how this all makes you sound? To my knowledge not one person on these boards has changed their stance regarding this lockout and to whom they ascribe blame. Yet I see more and more negative nasty presumptions expressed on each side of the issue trying to somehow convert the thinking of those with whom you disagree.
It isn't going to happen.
Chili said:Clean house on both sides. I'm starting to believe there will need to be some changes in the faces if there is ever going to be changes in philosophy.
Bettman vs Goodenow is a stalemate which looks to go on indefinitely. Get rid of them both (and for good measure Daly and Saskin as well).
Instead of dwelling on their positions, fresh ideas are needed to get them negotiating and people with no past are less likely to let their ego's dictate their approach.
chara said:It won't happen and it's a darn shame too.
The players have gotten rich under Goodenow and the owners brought in Bettman to get a salary cap. Plus Bettman only needs support of 8 owners this time around unlike 94 when the majority compromised. The '8' rule is what the owners voted for to protect themselves from caving in.
Unless the players budge and I don't that they will because Goodenow is still crying foul ("Mommy, they locked us out!!!Boo hoo!!!"), this will not be resolved anytime soon.
Chili said:I don't think it will happen either. As far as I know, Bettman has the support of the owners and likewise Goodenow the players support.
But 2 1/2 months without negotiations is ridiculous. They, meaning both sides, are insulting every fan and hurting every employee who is out of work as a result of this standoff.
The way it is now, Rumplestiltskin would have enough time for a nap in between their bargaining sessions.
Message to the NHL and NHLPA: Like it or not, YOU NEED EACH OTHER , pick up the phone already.
There's a rumoured deal in the works. Its probably true, Goodenow couldn't bluff forever.
chiavsfan said:Rumored deal in the works??? Where and when was this reported?
You're out of your mind!HckyFght said:Goodenow should step aside, and Bettman must be fired. Then we'll get a deal.
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