Proposal: Hayes to Clb

[bfaust30]

Hayes to CLB as he is rumored to go there for 2019 2nd rounder, Oliver Bjorkstrand, & Gabriel Carlson.

Hayes becomes the teams #2 center for a shot at the cup with the belief they dont trade bob or panarin.

Rangers get another under 62nd pick, a strong stay at home dman who can work in this teams top-4. And a good young top 9 player with upside.

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[tgo0]

I’d be surprised if this was the winning bid, gotta assume NYR gets a 1st + B prospect for him at least.

 

[bfaust30]

I mean if they can get a first plus that sure. But I think NYR wants ready prospects more than picks. I could be wrong.

 

[Sstroh84]

I’d be surprised if this was the winning bid, gotta assume NYR gets a 1st + B prospect for him at least.

Bjorkstrand is a top 6 talent who will be a regular 25 goal scorer. His value is close to a 1st on his own so I think this deal is actually an overpayment by the CBJ with a 2nd round pick and a highly rated defenseman prospect in Gabriel Carlsson.

 

[One Winged Angel]

I highly doubt Jarmo is going to move Bjorkstrand for a rental and the Rangers are looking at a 1st and a prospect for Hayes.

 

[WannabeFinn]

If you want a 1st and a prospect from Columbus, that could be worked out. But I highly doubt we move Bjorkstrand for a rental. That just opens up another hole on the roster.

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

Depends on two things. 1) Will Hayes re-sign with Columbus? If so, I could see something like this working. 2) How high are Jarmo and Co. on Emil Bemstrom? If he can make an impact next season at the NHL level, I could see this making some sense.

 

[Lays]

1st+Peeke+Texier/Stenlund?

 

[Viqsi]

Take out the 2nd and Bjorkstrand and replace with a 1st, because we don't want to trade Bjorkstrand for a rental (EDIT: unless we're getting a legendary badass), and we don't have our 2019 2nd.

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1st+Peeke+Texier/Stenlund?

Really only feasible if we can make the 1st conditional on re-signing Hayes.

 

[Lays]

Take out the 2nd and Bjorkstrand and replace with a 1st, because we don't want to trade Bjorkstrand for a rental (EDIT: unless we're getting a legendary badass), and we don't have our 2019 2nd.

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Really only feasible if we can make the 1st conditional on re-signing Hayes.

Do you mean the 1st turns to a 2nd or it becomes a 2020 1st? I’d do the latter but not the former

 

[Viqsi]

Do you mean the 1st turns to a 2nd or it becomes a 2020 1st? I’d do the latter but not the former

Peeke+Tex or Stenlund (it'd be Stenlund) for Hayes as a rental. If Hays extends with the Jackets, the Rangers also get our 2020 1st. (I suppose we could make it 2019 if Hayes extends before the draft, but let's not make things complicated.)

 

[Shootertooter]

Peeke+Tex or Stenlund (it'd be Stenlund) for Hayes as a rental. If Hays extends with the Jackets, the Rangers also get our 2020 1st. (I suppose we could make it 2019 if Hayes extends before the draft, but let's not make things complicated.)

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[Daniel Phillips]

Yes... I would push for the 1st but I'm fine with the 2nd

 

[Crede777]

Columbus doesn't have their 2019 2nd round pick.

 

[eco's bones]

Teams trading for rentals are purchasing known entities to optimize their chances of winning. Teams selling are gambling that the futures they get back won't bust. Hayes is a known entity. If you want him you'll only have him for a short period of time before he becomes an unrestricted free agent. That's part of the deal. It's not about having possession of him past this season unless you can get him to sign. Part of this is how serious you are about making a real run at a championship because if you don't do it someone else will. And there are no guarantees that even if you do do it that you will win and/or he will re-sign with you.

How will the Rangers know for sure the first they get back won't become an average 3rd line player or even bust altogether? The same with any prospects. They don't. It's all a gamble.

 

[bernmeister]

I’d be surprised if this was the winning bid, gotta assume NYR gets a 1st + B prospect for him at least.

Bjorkstrand is a top 6 talent who will be a regular 25 goal scorer. His value is close to a 1st on his own so I think this deal is actually an overpayment by the CBJ with a 2nd round pick and a highly rated defenseman prospect in Gabriel Carlsson.

I highly doubt Jarmo is going to move Bjorkstrand for a rental and the Rangers are looking at a 1st and a prospect for Hayes.

If you want a 1st and a prospect from Columbus, that could be worked out. But I highly doubt we move Bjorkstrand for a rental. That just opens up another hole on the roster.

Take out the 2nd and Bjorkstrand and replace with a 1st, because we don't want to trade Bjorkstrand for a rental (EDIT: unless we're getting a legendary badass), and we don't have our 2019 2nd.

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Really only feasible if we can make the 1st conditional on re-signing Hayes.

so, 1st + Gabriel Carlsson?

 

[Columbus Jack]

1st+Peeke+Texier/Stenlund?

God no

 

[Viqsi]

so, 1st + Gabriel Carlsson?

Yep. Still steep but at least workable for us.

 

[Sstroh84]

so, 1st + Gabriel Carlsson?

I think that would be possible, but the CBJ would have to replace to 1st round pick in another deal. Jarmo will not be OK with having no 1st or 2nd round picks in 2019.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Yep. Still steep but at least workable for us.

From what Bobfather was saying, that’s what it would sound like it would take to get Hayes, but he’s speculating as well, I’d believe.