Confirmed with Link: Hawks sign Jake McCabe for $4m per for 4 years

Kevin Musto

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Oh cool. I wonder if I know her.
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Gabriella Effrein
 

KiwiGriff

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Sabres fan … I’ll just leave these here. I’ll miss McCabe and if he stays healthy you’ve got a good pickup there.

I love how when he lays out Laine he just immediately turns to Scheifele cause he knows he has to pay the piper, but it’s with the body language that says they can all f*** right off.


 

Kevin Musto

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Sabres fan … I’ll just leave these here. I’ll miss McCabe and if he stays healthy you’ve got a good pickup there.

I love how when he lays out Laine he just immediately turns to Scheifele cause he knows he has to pay the piper, but it’s with the body language that says they can all f*** right off.



Oh baby that's fun!
 

Muffinalt

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Sabres fan … I’ll just leave these here. I’ll miss McCabe and if he stays healthy you’ve got a good pickup there.

I love how when he lays out Laine he just immediately turns to Scheifele cause he knows he has to pay the piper, but it’s with the body language that says they can all f*** right off.




Two of my favorite hits. That reverse on Hall is just hilarious.
 

featherhawk

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sure hope his health holds up as he plays the game just how we need him too...
 
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wahsnairb

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Thank you for this. Good to see the room we still have even with CDH and Strome here.

And good lord I want to puke looking at CDH paired with Jones!!

Can’t wait for Kaner’s Bald Spot or whatever that goof’s name is to come in and say poor CdH
 

giza

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Jones & McCabe could be a strong #1 D line-----push Murphy to 2nd line where he belongs---maybe with Jones Part 2 ....shaping up.
 
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Ace Card Bedard

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Jones & McCabe could be a strong #1 D line-----push Murphy to 2nd line where he belongs---maybe with Jones Part 2 ....shaping up.


My hope is that Kalynuk or Regula takes that #4D spot.

6'4" Jones
6'4" Murphy
6'4" Regula
6'1" McCabe
6'1" Kalynuk
6'1" Stillman
6'1" C. Jones
and the rest

Team should be hard to play against if nothing else.
 

JaegerDice

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It depends on if Jones bounces back or not. If he continues his play over the last two seasons, Hamilton is better and it's not particularly close either.

The amount of assets given up and the amount of risk on the Jones deal is incredible.

Exactly.

Nobody, including Jones biggest skeptics like myself, are blind to the tools he has. We all see the skating, the ranginess, the size, etc. Everybody agrees he LOOKS like somebody that should be a dominant number 1 D. And in the early years of his career, he was improving on a year-to-year basis that it seemed inevitable that he would be the next Chris Pronger. But then it didn't happen. He stalled out.

He still has all the same tools. But there is a different between having the tools, having great inputs like speed and size and iq and a great shot and all that, and actually leveraging them to measurable positive impact on the ice. Seth Jones has never had that impact. Paying him like he has is a MASSIVE risk. Sending a nearly top-end offer-sheet worth of assets to acquire him is a MASSIVE risk. Could it pan out? Sure. There is a non-zero chance he rediscovers his game, puts everything together and becomes an absolute monster. A non-zero CHANCE is a hell of a gamble for what the Blackhawks paid. He still has the tools, but it's folly to say 'this defensemen is a great defensemen because it makes sense he should be a great defensemen' instead of 'this defensemen is a great defensemen because he has measurably performed as a great defensemen for years'.

Micah McCurdy sums up both Jones and Hamilton well (just as he did McCabe earlier in this thread):





As a Blackhawks fan, who wants the Blackhawks to be good, I really hope Seth Jones turns into the monster it looked like he would become several years ago.
 
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AmericanDream

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Exactly.

Nobody, including Jones biggest skeptics like myself, are blind to the tools he has. We all see the skating, the ranginess, the size, etc. Everybody agrees he LOOKS like somebody that should be a dominant number 1 D. And in the early years of his career, he was improving on a year-to-year basis that it seemed inevitable that he would be the next Chris Pronger. But then it didn't happen. He stalled out.

He still has all the same tools. But there is a different between having the tools, having great inputs like speed and size and iq and a great shot and all that, and actually leveraging them to measurable positive impact on the ice. Seth Jones has never had that impact. Paying him like he has is a MASSIVE risk. Sending a nearly top-end offer-sheet worth of assets to acquire him is a MASSIVE risk. Could it pan out? Sure. There is a non-zero chance he rediscovers his game, puts everything together and becomes an absolute monster. A non-zero CHANCE is a hell of a gamble for what the Blackhawks paid. He still has the tools, but it's folly to say 'this defensemen is a great defensemen because it makes sense he should be a great defensemen' instead of 'this defensemen is a great defensemen because he has measurably performed as a great defensemen for years'.

Micah McCurdy sums up both Jones and Hamilton well (just as he did McCabe earlier in this thread):





As a Blackhawks fan, who wants the Blackhawks to be good, I really hope Seth Jones turns into the monster it looked like he would become several years ago.

Quite possibly the worst thing I have ever read and that is saying something. Pure pile of trash.
 

JaegerDice

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What do you expect out of a post saying that Jones is a weak defender and there is zero chance he will come back to the level of a top 10 D?

I didnt say there was zero chance he comes back I said there’s a non-zero chance. Its unlikely but not impossible.

And Seth Jones has been a weak defender for years. Thats just a raw measure of on-ice impact. He has the tools to be much better, but he has been weak. Even by his own admission last season (admittedly his worst in a steady decline).
 

Bubba88

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I didnt say there was zero chance he comes back I said there’s a non-zero chance. Its unlikely but not impossible.

And Seth Jones has been a weak defender for years. Thats just a raw measure of on-ice impact. He has the tools to be much better, but he has been weak. Even by his own admission last season (admittedly his worst in a steady decline).
Brandon Manning was a weak defender. Seth Jones isn't. Manning wasn't paid 9 million, but Jones is a top pairing D even when he is not playing at his best.
Why is it unlikely that Jones gets back to the player he was just 2-3 years ago?
 

JaegerDice

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Brandon Manning was a weak defender. Seth Jones isn't. Manning wasn't paid 9 million, but Jones is a top pairing D even when he is not playing at his best.
Why is it unlikely that Jones gets back to the player he was just 2-3 years ago?

The player Jones was 2-3 years ago is still not a player worth 9.5 million + two 1sts, a 2nd and a blue-chip prospect. He’d need to be much better (and consistently so) than that to make up the price.

Seth Jones is a weak defender, or at least has been a weak defender for several years. Brandon Manning is a sub-NHL defender. There’s a difference.
 

giza

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I've heard rumors over the years that Hamilton isn't a favorite among his teammates----that might be why he is on his 4th team at this relatively young age.
 

ColbyChaos

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Exactly.

Nobody, including Jones biggest skeptics like myself, are blind to the tools he has. We all see the skating, the ranginess, the size, etc. Everybody agrees he LOOKS like somebody that should be a dominant number 1 D. And in the early years of his career, he was improving on a year-to-year basis that it seemed inevitable that he would be the next Chris Pronger. But then it didn't happen. He stalled out.

He still has all the same tools. But there is a different between having the tools, having great inputs like speed and size and iq and a great shot and all that, and actually leveraging them to measurable positive impact on the ice. Seth Jones has never had that impact. Paying him like he has is a MASSIVE risk. Sending a nearly top-end offer-sheet worth of assets to acquire him is a MASSIVE risk. Could it pan out? Sure. There is a non-zero chance he rediscovers his game, puts everything together and becomes an absolute monster. A non-zero CHANCE is a hell of a gamble for what the Blackhawks paid. He still has the tools, but it's folly to say 'this defensemen is a great defensemen because it makes sense he should be a great defensemen' instead of 'this defensemen is a great defensemen because he has measurably performed as a great defensemen for years'.

Micah McCurdy sums up both Jones and Hamilton well (just as he did McCabe earlier in this thread):





As a Blackhawks fan, who wants the Blackhawks to be good, I really hope Seth Jones turns into the monster it looked like he would become several years ago.

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Hawkaholic

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Dont know much about this guy, but the words from BUF fans in encouraging. Dont like that we are banking on him being healthy though.
 

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