Discussion in 'National Hockey League Talk' started by hyduK, Feb 11, 2019.
After that good season last year they're right back to the same level the Oilers at and MacK is now in his 6th season.
I'm just saying it's kinda hypocritical that one is hand waved away.
For me, John Tavares. The Isles finished bottom 5 multiple times with him in his prime. In 9 years he made the playoffs only 3 times
Their goaltending tanked their season. The team is in much better shape than the oilers, and have better futures.
The problem with that is that lemieuxs penguins missed the playoffs because of divisional seeding format, not because of horrific performance.
For example, the penguins finished with 34 wins and 76 points in 1986. They missed the playoffs. The leafs (25 wins, 57 points), vancouver (23 wins 59 pts), and winnipeg (26 w, 59 pts), all made the playoffs that year.
In 1988 6 teams with less points made the playoffs with less points than the pens made the playoffs. And the pens didnt. The leafs had 21 wins and 52 points. The pens had 36 wins and 81 points. leafs made it. A 30 point difference.
Other years there were simular results.
4 teams per division made it. There were 4 divisions. 3 had 5 teams 1 had 6. Guess which one the pens played in?
Well no one can really tell the future.
I hope for both their sakes they can get it together but right now both are having poor seasons yet again.
Doesn't sound too sexcellent to me
Aaron Rodgers on the current **** packers team.
Joe Sakic with the '89-90 Nordiques team that totaled 12 wins. After his 102 points the team's second best scorer at the end of the season was defenseman Michel Petit with 36.
By "futures" I meant picks and prospects
The oilers still have no future in sight.
The avs have some decent dmen prospects (along with some good young nhl dmen) and will likely pick up 2 elite players in one draft this year. The avs are shaping up to be a powerhouse in the near future.
Wow. I didn't know that. Well if McDavid has the same success that Joe eventually did, I'm sure no one will consider McDavid to have been wasted.
Yeah let's hold on planning the parade just yet, in six years with MacK they've missed the playoffs several times, are as bad as the Oilers currently after what should have been a break out season, and haven't won a playoff round in ages.
Are currently better.
Have some good young d in samuel girard, barrie, and zadorov.
Great young forwards obviously.
Have 2 more top d prospects in makar and timmins. And 2 picks that will yield some realllly good players in this draft.
The oilers have mcdavid and a burning pile of feces.
And management that dont do their best imitation of the keystone cops.
Yeah a whopping 2 points better despite having two more years to work with in MacK.
One line offence doesn't work in the modern NHL both teams have failed at that.
Oilers, Avs, Devils are examples of teams that basically rely on one offensive line to carry most of the mail, all had one season where a lot went right and they made the playoffs recently and then they collapse back into being a mediocre team the following year.
Great. The avs are about to add an entire second line in one draft.
They are likely to end up with top 3 pick, maybe first overall, and another top 10.
Three Swedes: Mats Sundin, Henrik Lundqvist, OEL
The Avs goaltenders, out of 47 goalies to play 10 or more games since early December, are 46th and 47th in SV%.
The Avs have let in the most goals, while being second best in shots allowed.
Varlamov probably moved up a bit after his last 2 starts, but the point is still valid.
MacKinnon didn't break out until last year, and obviously 1 star player can't make a team successful (see: oilers).
The Avs have a much better future outlook than Edmonton. It's not even close. Edmonton needs to draft in the top 3 this year to make a big improvement.
In Columbus? Probably. But he had his chances in NY and was largely a no show when it mattered (outside of racking up a ton of secondary assists and garbage time points against Tampa to make his stats look not so terrible).
Giordano might have a case here too. 12 seasons, missed the playoffs 10 times and got swept the two times he was able to play so he's never won a single playoff game I believe. Turns 36 years old this year.
I've met him a few times at golf tournaments. Really nice guy. Made me feel bad that he never got a cup after seeing his numbers.
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